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it's funny watching 3 guys from different countries trying to explain to the others how it is and how it was and what exactly happened

3 vastly different viewpoints and experiences somehow can't agree
truth.
 
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That's just false. When the jab first came out, MOST people took it.
How is this contrary to what I'm saying?

My provincial government didn't start threatening mandates until around July of 2021. At this point, they had about 65% of first doses administered to eligible populations between 18-39.

So yes, "most" people "chose" to take it. But millions still chose not to. So not everyone was a lemming, the coercive tactics had to be ratcheted up incrementally to get more and more compliance.
 
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The data wasn't in. It was rushed under emergency use authorization. Any intelligent person should have known the vaccine came with risks that wouldn't be determined for quite some time. If you knew covid was harmless to you, taking it was a moronic decision unless you were mandated to do so.
Different people evaluate risk differently.
I admit I took a gamble, and I'd do it again.
 
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That's just false. When the jab first came out, MOST people took it. There wasn't adequate proof one way or the other regarding whether that was a smart choice or not at the time. Again, the large majority of people are working full time jobs, dealing with kids, and trying to pay their bills when inflation is sky high. They aren't living off something their parents created and searching the internet all day.
Yeah, thats not false. When you can't go to work, can't go to the grocery store, can't get on a plane, without getting a vaccine and wearing a mask (but you dont have to wear a mask if you were vaccinated), thats a heavy handed tactic
 
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How is this contrary to what I'm saying?

My provincial government didn't start threatening mandates until around July of 2021. At this point, they had about 65% of first doses administered to eligible populations between 18-39.

So yes, "most" people "chose" to take it. But millions still chose not to.
I'm just not following your logic at this point. What do the millions that chose not to have to do with anything? If MOST people had already taken it, didn't that meet your assumption that those people gave the government the power to mandate it?
 
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Different people evaluate risk differently.
I admit I took a gamble, and I'd do it again.

Then off you go for your boosters....
 
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Yeah, thats not false. When you can't go to work, can't go to the grocery store, can't get on a plane, without getting a vaccine and wearing a mask (but you dont have to wear a mask if you were vaccinated), thats a heavy handed tactic
What? Have you even read the last few pages?
 
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Different people evaluate risk differently.
I admit I took a gamble, and I'd do it again.
Why would you gamble when the thing you are trying to prevent is harmless to you? Doesn't that seem like a dumb gamble?
 
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Time to take the pups to the park. Enjoyed it boys
 
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How is this contrary to what I'm saying?

My provincial government didn't start threatening mandates until around July of 2021. At this point, they had about 65% of first doses administered to eligible populations between 18-39.

So yes, "most" people "chose" to take it. But millions still chose not to. So not everyone was a lemming, the coercive tactics had to be ratcheted up incrementally to get more and more compliance.
You have no way of knowing which way the compliance would have gone, if things had remained the same.
 
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I'm pretty sure way less people would have taken the vaccine if they weren't required to
 
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I'm just not following your logic at this point. What do the millions that chose not to have to do with anything? If MOST people had already taken it, didn't that meet your assumption that those people gave the government the power to mandate it?
I don't want to retrace this particular conversation.

All I'm saying is that manipulative public messaging was used to get majority (say 60%) compliance. Coercive messaging and threats of restrictions were then used to get another 20% compliance. Then they instituted mandates.

I don't look down on people who took the vaccine because they were threatened to take it. I look down on people who took it before the threats were made - specifically younger healthier people who clearly did not need this product but took it because they're lemmings.
 
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Why would you gamble when the thing you are trying to prevent is harmless to you? Doesn't that seem like a dumb gamble?
It made me feel like utter **** for a week, then another week of recovery. Reducing that was something I was interested in doing, since infection is an inevitability sooner or later, and I didn't think I would have an adverse reaction.

Nowadays, having had omicron, its like a regular cold. I may well get a boost in a few months, since all the data shows that recovery + vaccine makes the biggest immune response.
 
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Make sure to ask for moderna.
 
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I'm just happy that Looser will never ever vote for a politician
that would require any governmental or private company vaccine mandates
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I look down on people who took it before the threats were made - specifically younger healthier people who clearly did not need this product but took it because they're lemmings.
You simply can't conceive that someone would rake it of their own accord.
 
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It made me feel like utter **** for a week, then another week of recovery. Reducing that was something I was interested in doing, since infection is an inevitability sooner or later, and I didn't think I would have an adverse reaction.

Nowadays, having had omicron, its like a regular cold. I may well get a boost in a few months, since all the data shows that recovery + vaccine makes the biggest immune response.
That's weird because a lot of the data that I've been seeing is that vaccinated people get reoccurring infections rather quickly
 
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Make sure to ask for moderna.
What was the deal with moderna in Canada, that you mentioned earlier?
 
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That's weird because a lot of the data that I've been seeing is that vaccinated people get reoccurring infections rather quickly
How would you define quickly?
 
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yo lemme tell you all about covid

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What was the deal with moderna in Canada, that you mentioned earlier?
LOL WTF
 
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