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Ixiterra 12-15-2016 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feannag (Post 18690229)
It didn't seem that huge a deal until the CIA and FBI agreed there was tampering of the election by Russians.

Stop believing the media. This is not true in the least. Or at least, there is zero evidence except "sources" and links to the original ****ty article.

And for ****'s sake, don't believe anything the CIA says ever.

havax 12-15-2016 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feannag (Post 18690229)
Monday will be interesting to be sure. Looks to be a growing probability may not even make it into the White House. There has been more and more Electors who don't want to vote for Trump. The only one publicly stated so (and revealed his identity) seems to having his career threatened by Trump supporters, and they have been calling for extensions and calling for Trump to come clean on the Russian election interference. It didn't seem that huge a deal until the CIA and FBI agreed there was tampering of the election by Russians.

So this could be an unprecedented time where the electoral college may actually prevent a candidate from being President. But despite that there HAS BEEN a plan in place for just this situation. If the college fails to give a majority vote to one candidate a contingent election held where the House votes in a President and the Senate votes in a Vice President.

:picard2:

Zulu 12-15-2016 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feannag (Post 18690229)
Monday will be interesting to be sure. Looks to be a growing probability may not even make it into the White House. There has been more and more Electors who don't want to vote for Trump. The only one publicly stated so (and revealed his identity) seems to having his career threatened by Trump supporters, and they have been calling for extensions and calling for Trump to come clean on the Russian election interference. It didn't seem that huge a deal until the CIA and FBI agreed there was tampering of the election by Russians.

So this could be an unprecedented time where the electoral college may actually prevent a candidate from being President. But despite that there HAS BEEN a plan in place for just this situation. If the college fails to give a majority vote to one candidate a contingent election held where the House votes in a President and the Senate votes in a Vice President.

My prediction? No faithless electors.

Quote me.

Milk-Man 12-15-2016 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feannag (Post 18690229)
Monday will be interesting to be sure. Looks to be a growing probability may not even make it into the White House. There has been more and more Electors who don't want to vote for Trump. The only one publicly stated so (and revealed his identity) seems to having his career threatened by Trump supporters, and they have been calling for extensions and calling for Trump to come clean on the Russian election interference. It didn't seem that huge a deal until the CIA and FBI agreed there was tampering of the election by Russians.

So this could be an unprecedented time where the electoral college may actually prevent a candidate from being President. But despite that there HAS BEEN a plan in place for just this situation. If the college fails to give a majority vote to one candidate a contingent election held where the House votes in a President and the Senate votes in a Vice President.

Please educate yourself

JoMo 12-15-2016 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu (Post 18690236)
My prediction? No faithless electors.

Quote me.

There's usually a couple at most. However, you might be right as voting against Trump will end their career in the GOP and most electors are party die hards.

Vir 12-15-2016 16:43

aww they turned off the likes and dislikes on that video

Lord Elessar 12-15-2016 16:45

Never believe the CIA. only the International Secrecy Intelligence Service is reliable.

JoMo 12-15-2016 16:48

Did they ever end up showing anyone this secret CIA memo? So far, I'll I've heard is "Sources" from the NYT/Washington Post say they 'heard' about a secret memo or meeting.

The entire thing could be fiction created by a couple of 'journalists'.

NightTrain 12-15-2016 16:51

Assange gave an interview today and he categorically denied the whole russian hack narrative. I will take his word over anyone in the CIA or the FBI

JoMo 12-15-2016 17:08

The co-President Ivanka....

"Republican Main Street Partnership president says Ivanka Trump has been calling GOP lawmakers to discuss child care legislation - Independent Journal Review"

Fool 12-15-2016 17:09

Just an FYI Feannag, the only electors who have said they won't vote for Trump are Democrat electors, and the one guy from Texas who is probably just milking the media for appearance fees. Wouldn't shock me if he still votes Trump. "He's worried about his career being threatened!" Oh no. Meanwhile Trump electors are getting death threats every day.

There is no evidence of Russian interference in any way. None.

Nash 12-15-2016 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by phaytal (Post 18690226)
Who the **** is that?

Looks like that ***** from M.A.S.H.

Odio 12-15-2016 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightTrain (Post 18690249)
Assange gave an interview today and he categorically denied the whole russian hack narrative. I will take his word over anyone in the CIA or the FBI

Fake.


Dec 15th 2016

HaPpY 12-15-2016 17:22

and those elector death threats come from SJWs... the equivalent of being threatened by an angry butterfly

spockhammer 12-15-2016 17:27

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Originally Posted by HaPpY (Post 18690264)
and those elector death threats come from SJWs... the equivalent of being threatened by an angry butterfly

nah they employ "muscle" now the same as any mob enforcement does

MadHatSam 12-15-2016 17:28

Russia hacking the DNC wouldn't merit a constitutional crisis. That is on the DNC for being dumb.

Russia as an influence is interesting mostly in how the narrative of an election can be shaped by foreign and domestic sources, how people consume media and how individual biases can be exploited by honest and dishonest actors.

Ixiterra 12-15-2016 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odio (Post 18690263)

it was live on hannity's radio show

Fool 12-15-2016 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHatSam (Post 18690269)
Russia hacking the DNC wouldn't merit a constitutional crisis. That is on the DNC for being dumb.

Russia as an influence is interesting mostly in how the narrative of an election can be shaped by foreign and domestic sources, how people consume media and how individual biases can be exploited by honest and dishonest actors.

2 problems. 1) Russia did not hack the DNC. 2) The second point has nothing to do with russian influence.

MadHatSam 12-15-2016 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fool (Post 18690275)
2 problems. 1) Russia did not hack the DNC. 2) The second point has nothing to do with russian influence.

1. You have actual proof they didn't or weren't involved at all? I read my statement with an implied if, but I could have made it explicit. Your statement is explicit and you offer nothing. So maybe calm the **** down.

2. It has to do with any influence, Russia included. So again calm the **** down.

Lord Elessar 12-15-2016 18:01

What about foreign money to a candidate? That seems more troublesome than emails. Curious as to how we are defining influence as well. The USA influences elections all the time with either force of arms or trade (including denial of)

Fool 12-15-2016 18:02

Every statement made by officials in the know state that the people who hacked the DNC were not Russian state operatives and were independent of any government involvement.

JoMo 12-15-2016 18:02

More winning.

Homebuilder sentiment spikes 7 points, Trump has them feeling fantastic

Trashman 12-15-2016 18:15

White House supports claim Putin directed US election hack - BBC News

"....Mr Putin maintains tight control on government operations, which suggests that he was aware. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest added that it was "pretty obvious" that Mr Putin was involved."

so..... no evidence at all. color me surprised.
Why do they even write that **** anymore ?

Captain Tele 12-15-2016 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedo909 (Post 18689949)

can you imagine if someone made this for owebama in '08

LMAO

RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYCIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS SSTS

All of them 80 year old whites just make it all the more hilarious

T-Dawg 12-15-2016 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18690240)
There's usually a couple at most. However, you might be right as voting against Trump will end their career in the GOP and most electors are party die hards.

There have been, like, 4 throughout history, and only one in my lifetime.

Dumbass

Fool 12-15-2016 18:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9e_vcSut0A

SuicideSnowman 12-15-2016 18:50

FBI New York Field Office Told To Continue Clinton Foundation Probe | The Daily Caller

Togowack 12-15-2016 18:57

It's as if the fed wants to get audited:

Fed Reserve Moves Against Trump Boom

Hellsfury 12-15-2016 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedo909 (Post 18689949)

Holy ****...


Not more celebrities pontificating as if "famous people" are somehow the same things as "important people".


Hi... I'm not a United States President, but I played one on TV... so here is why I think you should override the result of a democratic election and not make Trump president. I'm not going to say that you should vote Clinton, but I am going to heavily imply that you should vote Clinton. Here, to show you how serious I want to appear; I will now put on my reading glasses and look directly into the camera. I brought along some other serious sounding people who will now speak softly and with concern into the camera at you.


Now... here's some funny oddities... for all of the ballyhoo being shouted about foreign interference in an American election by Russia... why is the UnitedforAmerica website URL registered to a foreign company? In this case, Tucows Inc. based in Toronto, Canada?

The website has no information regarding who UnitedforAmerica is, or any direct means of contact with the group outside of the form on the website itself. No address, no email or telephone number.

The website makes the false claim (fake news?):

Quote:

Trump's unprecedentedly unqualified administration, Russia's confirmed interference, and the associated business conflicts of interest are an affront to the core American values that Republicans, Democrats and Independents have historically fought to protect.

Really? "unprecedentedly unqualified... How so? Pretty sure Russia hasn't been proven or confirmed as having done anything at all... just accusations. Business is an affront to America's core values? Tell that to the Japanese when Admiral Perry basically told them at gunpoint, you trade with us or we're taking over your country. George Washington owned slaves and Teddy Roosevelt slaughtered an 1/8th of Africa with a rifle before shipping it back to the Smithsonian in boxes for display to the American public.

Captain Tele 12-15-2016 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by [MD5]Hash (Post 18690117)

the face of good life choices that are good for you

sponsored by botox

SuicideSnowman 12-15-2016 19:00

LIVE: Sheriff Arpaio Reveals New Info on President Obama Birth Certificate - NEWS CONFERENCE - YouTube

Sheriff Arpaio holding a press conference, claiming that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.

Fool 12-15-2016 19:02

Celebrities by and large are terribly educated people, but they like to feel smart.

JoMo 12-15-2016 19:02

Here's the earlier mentioned interview with Assange on Hannity.

WikiLeaks' Julian Assange: Russian Government Was Not Source For Podesta, DNC Emails | Video | RealClearPolitics

JULIAN ASSANGE, WIKILEAKS: Our source is not the Russian government.

SEAN HANNITY: So let me be clear: Russia did not give you the Podesta documents or anything from the DNC.

ASSANGE: Correct.

HANNITY: Can you confirm whether or not you have anything involving hacked info from the RNC?

ASSANGE: We received about three pages of information to do with the RNC and Trump, but it was already public somewhere else.

HANNITY: So in other words: There was nothing significant. There was nothing comparable to [the DNC leaks]. So what Reince Priebus said on Meet The Press this weekend was correct, and NBC got it wrong?

ASSANGE: As far as we're aware of.

spockhammer 12-15-2016 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellsfury (Post 18690312)
Holy ****...


Not more celebrities pontificating as if "famous people" are somehow the same things as "important people".


Hi... I'm not a United States President, but I played one on TV... so here is why I think you should override the result of a democratic election and not make Trump president. I'm not going to say that you should vote Clinton, but I am going to heavy imply that you should vote Clinton. Here, to show you how serious I want to appear; I will now put on my reading glasses and look directly into the camera. I brought along some other serious sounding people who will now speak softly and with concern into the camera at you.


Now... here's some funny oddities... for all of the ballyhoo being shouted about foreign interference in an American election by Russia... why is the UnitedforAmerica website URL registered to a foreign company? In this case, Tucows Inc. based in Toronto, Canada?

The website has no information regarding who UnitedforAmerica is, or any direct means of contact with the group outside of the form on the website itself. No address, no email or telephone number.

The website makes the false claim (fake news?):



Really? "unprecedentedly unqualified... How so? Pretty sure Russia hasn't been proven or confirmed as having done anything at all... just accusations. Business is an affront to America's core values? Tell that to the Japanese when Admiral Perry basically told them at gunpoint, you trade with us or we're taking over your country. George Washington owned slaves and Teddy Roosevelt slaughtered an 1/8th of Africa with a rifle before shipping it back to the Smithsonian in boxes for display to the American public.


now talk about how peace and harmony is bull**** and the best we can practically do is damage reduction while also teaching people personal safety, community responsibility, ethics, and non violence

how no means no is garbage and yes means yes is also garbage and it infantilizes women by teaching them they're victims from birth, ecnouraging them to embellish sexual grey areas and miscommunication into crimes
how they criminalize masculinity and men - honey badger radio any1?
how **** shield laws can be abused by the malevolent and mentally ill out for the victim industry bux and popularity

how most judicial legislature and adversarial court is totally inaccessible to any person not in the upper middle class and is designed to subjugate people

how drug laws and the prison system are designed to keep more people addicted to drugs and in the poverty caste instead of elevating them, teaching them self control, rehabilitating, and making society safer

how prosecutors are basically thugs and pedophiles with a degree that predate using totalitarian authoritarian punitive justice

how when we put people in jail we enable them to commit more crimes

how our election system is completely rigged by first past the post and socialized health care can easily get ruined by doctors that are out for the socialized billing bux instead of to actually help people, and that we can also deskill a lot of diagnosis staff and triage at the hospital with computers

how national resources should never be sold privately and are the birth right of any citizen to any country

should be put in a pension plan or spent on social welfare

how social welfare society is a good society and not something to be ashamed of at all but mobility via anachro capitalism isnt totally bad, as long as the social safety net is there, housing, food, education, these things are the birth right of each citizen in 2016

etc etc

Captain Tele 12-15-2016 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHatSam (Post 18690281)
1. You have actual proof they didn't or weren't involved at all? I read my statement with an implied if, but I could have made it explicit. Your statement is explicit and you offer nothing. So maybe calm the **** down.

2. It has to do with any influence, Russia included. So again calm the **** down.

i would show you but that is classified

and i would give you everything you need to know to understand how little you know about all this

but that too would be classified

LOL

this is political discourse in America today

"trust us"

worked well for WMD and ACA and everything else so far

spockhammer 12-15-2016 19:09

haha u r dumb tele id say eat **** but im sure u like it

Phyzx 12-15-2016 19:13

We have the best videos.

We really do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA

JoMo 12-15-2016 19:14

https://i.sli.mg/OV1N59.png

Fool 12-15-2016 19:16

I can't believe it's not butter tastes like ****. Fake news.

JoMo 12-15-2016 19:18

lol

"Report: Obama administration didn't respond more forcefully to Russian hacking because they thought Hillary Clinton would win, didn't want to risk potential cyber war with Russia, sources say - NBC News"


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