Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18680237)

It seems the areas with the highest crime and poverty problems are inner cities that are Democrat controlled?

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680241)

And how does that relate to causation versus correlation?

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680239)

Hahaha, maybe they were made because he called them all rapists?

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680243)

Oh, you mean those 2 giant bubbles that collapsed within the last 16 years... and that price index has outpaced wage increases by how much, and for how long? Riiight, and considering how almost every economist says that TDE doesn't, in fact, work...

The IMF Confirms That â***8364;***732;Trickle-Downâ***8364;***8482; Economics Is, Indeed, a Joke

I mean, maybe you're smarter than the people at the IMF.

Originally Posted by SuicideSnowman (Post 18680246)

The only "made" people are the illegals that shouldn't be here anyway. He did get more support from Latinos than Romney did.

Most intelligent immigrants that spent years to legally become citizens don't want these parasites here either.

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18680245)

Yeah, I'm done with you.

You just *****ed about Republicans when I noted Obama hasn't lived up to everything he's given credit for but when I note that areas with the most problems are Democrat controlled, you spout off this ****.

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680249)

You know who does want them here? Business owners.

And I'm SO sorry for accidentally typing one extra letter. I guess that nullifies any statement or question I have. I'm sure that you've never done this.

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680250)

Cool, be done with me because you can't explain it.

Oh and - Democratic, Republican Identification Near Historical Lows | Gallup

Originally Posted by Esteban_Villa (Post 18680095)

You're confusing actual marxists from normal people who work jobs and raise families that preclude them from hours upon hours of independent research (which is tough to find and quite frankly tough to analyze also) and have a mixed system of beliefs due to hearing information from both sides.

Making sweeping and rude statements to them pushes them towards the actual Marxist camp instead of being understanding and engaging in reasoned discourse rather than vitriolic rhetoric. I see people like you as more of a danger to the cause of various right aligned movements as you set a very poor example and have over the course of a decade on this forum. I remember you from 2008 when I was young and the idiotic rage fueled statements and you have never served your cause well via it, and you never influenced me (unlike other posters here) into a more aligned viewpoint.

Originally Posted by SuicideSnowman (Post 18680255)

Oh no, I guess they'll have to figure out how to do business by hiring Americans. Such a novel idea.

Your typo didn't nullify your statement, that's why I responded to it with facts.

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18680256)

I'm still waiting to hear your brilliant economic theory on why a doctor should make the same amount of money as Juan the **** shoveler.

Originally Posted by Validuz (Post 18680259)

:huh: Ugh. It's like trying to tell an insane person that he's insane.

Let me say it slowly and clearly for you:
YOU ARE NOT A MIDDLE-GROUND REASONABLE PERSON.
You. Are. A. Part. Of. The. Delusional. Left.

You have never been nor will you ever be capable of critical thinking and introspective thought. It's simply not possible. Can you at least grasp that? Or is that part of your brain non-functioning as well?

You and your kin are too ****ing stupid to know you are too ****ing stupid. Repeat that sentence in your head over and over and maybe it will sink in. Even a literal retard could understand that concept. Nothing I say or do will ever reach you. You're already so far out that actual Communists are shocked.

"Making sweeping and rude statements to them pushes them towards the actual Marxist camp"

This is only evidence that you're ****ing insane. Nothing you ever say to me will "push me further right." Well, partly because there is no far right, but mostly because my beliefs changed over time as I grew up, used my brain, and slowly realized that naive things I believed in when I was young was bull****. You never got to this point and never will.

Progressivism is a disease of the mind.

Originally Posted by Kerosene31 (Post 18680137)

The extreme right wants the nanny state just as much as the extreme left, maybe more.

The bible thumping right (and don't kid yourself, that's who helped put Trump over the top) wants nothing more than a christian theocracy where the state determines what is right or wrong to put in our bodies, etc. They are just as scary as those who want to limit how much sugar we can have.

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680261)

The funny thing is, that the businesses have raised food prices from the Food price index of 91.1 in y2000, to 201 in y2014... with wages no-where near a 115% jump... and yet you're mad at illegals who still get paid almost nothing. :D

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680261)

Except Trump has hired Illegals his entire business career. And he's not about to piss off all of his rich buddies by removing them. And you don't really want them to either. You want your $1.50/# strawberries, $3.99/# asparagus which sometimes goes on sale for $2/#.

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18680264)

businesses raised costs

LOL

Venezuela Locks Up 100 “Bourgeois” Businessmen For The Crime Of Capitalism

not mandated minimum wage, the federal reserve, monetization of debt, increase business operating costs and mandated entitlement benefits being passed on to consumers

good talking points chavez

u just in time for castros funeral service

this as bad as people demanding increases in property tax to fund new welfare projects/programs while saying the rent is too damn high for poor people to afford.

Originally Posted by SuicideSnowman (Post 18680269)

Yeah, he has said multiple times that he abuses the system our government put into place. That doesn't necessarily mean he has no interest in fixing it.

I can't say for certain what he'll accomplish as a president, but I assure you he'll be one of the toughest presidents on illegal immigration that we've seen in some time. You clearly haven't followed the election if you think that Trump is worried about pissing anybody off.

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680262)

I don't know what you guys have your panties in a twist about, but you are wrong... confirmation bias and "backfire effect" is definitely a problem that we've had here. And it's a huge reason why we're so polarized. And what's to say that you're not the insane one there? You calling someone insane a) doesn't make them insane, and b) doesn't mean you aren't.

Originally Posted by Sentor (Post 18680275)

Alright - I'm out.

You guys are spoon fed bull****, none of which is going to happen, and considering he's already going back on half of his major campaign promises, and lies 77% of the time as it is, nothing will change.

Whatever.

(last thing: tele - because his economic policies are BAT**** INSANE, and everyone who read them/listened to professionals knows it)

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18680085)

i actually enjoy your posts

walking_man and MHS others ....

i have been thinking about this a lot and maybe what we need is a "bankruptcy" president right now.

i mean look at how GM Chapter 11 was handled a few years back

General Motors Chapter 11 reorganization - Wikipedia

this idea of we are going to put the taxpayers on the hook for private loses, just to watch a company go belly up anyways, is about as wasteful and fiscally incompetent as it gets.

yes, even moreso than the bad ideas and piss poor prioritization that got us into these messes in the first place.

our bubble economy is in euphoria mode right now......but the global bubble is still doing its stagnation thing and i doubt that even a Trump presidency is going to resolve that beyond more short term "hopium" injections.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ECi6WJpbzE

maybe we don't have the hero we want but the hero we need with our Bankrutpcy King where he is today.

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 18680090)

I am very much in line with minarchism -the nightwatchman State. As I've said before, we do need some gvt in order to function as a viable society. The equation and disagreement always boils down to how much. As younger generations are being brainwashed into accepting the Nanny State, the worse the future will be where it becomes acceptable to give away our Liberties and Freedoms to the State, which is the antithesis to what this Nation was founded on. To date, we have been unable to find a better form of gvt. Communism / Socialism showed its true face by murdering ~100 million people, so yeah, I distrust the power of any State.

The inherent flaw with a capitalist society is the fact that there will be winners and losers, which also applies to amassing wealth. In a free society, it also offers the best opportunity to create upward mobility economically. I believe the key to allaying your fears is a society that actually prosecutes corruption without any mercy. So imo, while the potential to fill the gap you worry over is there, a just society willing to prosecute would mitigate it.

This is where I believe that balance can be achieved, but its going to take willpower to hold people who commit crimes accountable for the actions. Affluenza and twinkie defenses wouldnt cut it in my society. Your ass would be going to prison or being put to death depending on your crime(s). In other words, once people know there are real consequences for their actions, the less likely they are to act on them.

Originally Posted by Kerosene31 (Post 18679970)

Everything is so divisive right now. You're either a racist hood wearing KKK member or a purple haired SJW riddled with white guilt.

Most of us are in the common sense middle, yet I feel like the majority is being shouted down by the idiots on both sides.

Originally Posted by Validuz (Post 18680042)

:rofl: "common sense middle" Jesus Christ, you actually believe that.

Originally Posted by Isaiah 1:7

Your country is desolate, your cities burned with fire; your fields are being stripped by foreigners right before you, laid waste as when overthrown by strangers.

Originally Posted by Validuz (Post 18680340)

Holy ****, why on Earth did I take Togo off of ignore.

I thought maybe he stopped spamming stupid religious bull**** in every thread...