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Flyersfan 03-12-2011 03:41

ya but in a few hours everything will be back to normal because they are prepared for this kind of stuff

JoMo 03-12-2011 03:42

NHK reporting:

Radiation has been detected.

1015 mcv (or 1050?)

if people are exposed to this radiation for an hour, it is equal to the amount people are exposed to for a year.

Dresden 03-12-2011 03:47

already posted on the previous page

another (same) version of the video
http://www.twitvid.com/LICNU/

Flyersfan 03-12-2011 03:47

Basic Nuclear Plant Safety Primer for Everyone.

The Fukushima Daiichi power plant is a Boiling Water Reactor. It is both moderated (what causes fission) and cooled (what stops the nuclear fuel/waste from getting so hot it melts) by water.

The plant was scrammed (immediately stopped) after the earthquake by inserting control rods (boron-infused 'rods' that prevent further fissions from taking place (by eating up all the neutrons necessary to initiate fission). This happened successfully. The plant is "shut down."

However, after the plant is shut down, there are still certain elements called "delayed neutron precursors" that will STILL released neutrons for some time period after the plant is shut down. These are what cause heat to accrue in a reactor that should theoretically be "shut down". This is why cooling needs to be provided in a typical 2nd generation light-water reactor (what most reactors in the world are) for a good while after shutdown.

Without cooling water, the likely "worst case" will be the reactor pressure vessel (RPV) building up heat, which builds up pressure, which could cause a rupture of the vessel. The fuel rods will spill out radioactive contents, fires might break out, and the reactor is basically a lost cause.

And how does that affect the general populace in terms of radioactive dose?
-Not at all.

The RPV is surrounded by a containment facility designed from the ground up to withstand everything short of hydrogen bombs. Given the semi-spherical distance from the RPV an explosion would have to travel to break through the containment vessel, it is fundamentally impossible (given the energy density the RPV is capable of containing) for there to be straight up "radioactive smoke" or such getting outside of containment. The containment building is constructed to prevent EXACTLY this emergency.

So while this is a worrying emergency, and could represent billions of lost dollars a mess to clean up should the WORST come about, it will still not be another Chernobyl. And given the efforts underway to provide cooling and the fact that the fuel rods are still not exposed to air (When the real danger of fuel melting can occur), there is still time to stop this loss of coolent accident (LOCA).

So we SHOULD worry about this reactor problem, but not for the reason most anti-nuclear activists would have you believe.



or the roof blows off and everyone gets cooked

CelticMojo 03-12-2011 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dresden (Post 16268871)
another version of the video
http://www.twitvid.com/LICNU/

Quote:

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[Golbez-RG-] 03-12-2011 03:48

Thy're saying they had a possible meltdown.

Japan investigates possible nuclear meltdown - World - CBC News

Sigma 03-12-2011 03:49

http://i56.tinypic.com/11rrssw.jpg

Kiint 03-12-2011 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 16268876)

woohoo ... looks like Japan finally got their revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki :D

CelticMojo 03-12-2011 03:52

looks like a giant radioactive sperm headed to the west coast... payback for Hiroshima and Nagasaki!


edit: nice! +rep for that!

Special---K 03-12-2011 03:54

wtf how do CNN and fox news both have ****ty pseudo news shows on right now instead of live coverage of this?

JoMo 03-12-2011 03:54

Japan Chief Cabinet Secretary Edano: expands evacuation area at no.2 plant to 10 km

It had previously been 3 km. This is the other plant about 7 miles from the one that just blowed up.

Flyersfan 03-12-2011 03:55

i dont think 750 rads kills you right away so you have time to convince some hot chicks they are dying so you can bang them

kazan 03-12-2011 03:55

**** is going from bad to apocalyptic, yo

JoMo 03-12-2011 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyersfan (Post 16268893)
i dont think 750 rads kills you right away so you have time to convince some hot chicks they are dying so you can bang them

unless you're a robot.

Kiint 03-12-2011 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyersfan (Post 16268893)
i dont think 750 rads kills you right away so you have time to convince some hot chicks they are dying so you can bang them

Testicular cancer man, think outside the box.

Dresden 03-12-2011 04:00

fixed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPQ9qgry9C8

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:05

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...SZGH/pnnr1g%3D

Synth 03-12-2011 04:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma (Post 16268876)

lol the Australian Radiation Service uses tiny pic as a host for some pretty serious images?

Special---K 03-12-2011 04:07

dude, watching the vid that whole building just disintigrates

Special---K 03-12-2011 04:08

foxnews is airing a pretty crazy vid of the thing just going down

HumDumpin 03-12-2011 04:10

Sheeit, i saw a report that the roof collapsed, that looks like the whole damn thing came down to bare steel I-beam

-=ROOSTER=- 03-12-2011 04:12

great so there's no containment building anymore for that reactor.

or it doesnt look like it

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:12

yeah the NHK newswoman has become distracted and quiet for some reason.

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:14

0857: The BBC's Nick Ravenscroft was on his way towards Fukushima, but about 60km from the plant was stopped by the police and told it was too dangerous to proceed. He says there is lots of traffic coming in the other direction. Authorities in vehicles with sirens are making public announcements to the crowds.

DocHolliday 03-12-2011 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=ROOSTER=- (Post 16268924)
great so there's no containment building anymore for that reactor.

or it doesnt look like it

Its multi-layered I believe. Outer shell is mainly sheet metal to keep the elements out. The actual containment structure itself is solid concrete reinforced steel.

Not sure if there are other layers. Hopefully that explosion did not damage the inner layer.

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocHolliday (Post 16268932)
Its multi-layered I believe. Outer shell is mainly sheet metal to keep the elements out. The actual containment structure itself is solid concrete reinforced steel.

Not sure if there are other layers. Hopefully that explosion did not damage the inner layer.

I believe so.

They are reporting the explosion occurred during an aftershock.

Special---K 03-12-2011 04:22

that outer shell just blew off...it didn't collapse
that would seem to indicate it was due to a lot of pressure on the inside from something

Zombie 03-12-2011 04:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 16268926)
yeah the NHK newswoman has become distracted and quiet for some reason.

Where are you seeing the newsroom?

[Golbez-RG-] 03-12-2011 04:23

If that map is right the west coast is ****ed all the way in to CO

Oddity 03-12-2011 04:24

kaboom Video - Footage of the explosion at Japan's nuclear plant at Fukushima - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com

edit: already posted, nevermind

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombie (Post 16268939)
Where are you seeing the newsroom?

She's back talking now. Just repeating the same thing until they get more info

On Air : jibtv.com

Synth 03-12-2011 04:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Golbez-RG-] (Post 16268940)
If that map is right the west coast is ****ed all the way in to CO

i could have 3 eye balls in 12 days, ****

max 03-12-2011 04:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synth (Post 16268908)
lol the Australian Radiation Service uses tiny pic as a host for some pretty serious images?

The ARS is some private consulting company that deals with radiation safety. It's not a government agency I believe.

Dresden 03-12-2011 04:28

best quality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMEV-_X5b_8

HumDumpin 03-12-2011 04:33

Damn, you can see the shockwave blasting out the roof

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:36

yeah something is going down..... it's too quiet. The Jap gov is choosing its words carefully.

HumDumpin 03-12-2011 04:38

Are you watching a live feed from somewhere?

Tappy 03-12-2011 04:38

So what's the big deal?

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by DealyRrunk (Post 16268955)
Are you watching a live feed from somewhere?

yeah, On Air : jibtv.com

and reading this and the reuters feed.

Kyodo News
Japan earthquake | Page 15 | Liveblog live blogging | Reuters.com

JoMo 03-12-2011 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tappy (Post 16268956)
So what's the big deal?

Godzilla may become a reality.


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