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Captain Tele 12-01-2016 16:59

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Originally Posted by Kerosene31 (Post 18682764)
I think the massive conspiracy thing falls a little flat. Show me an example where a Republican crackdown on voter fraud has had positive results? Why does everyone freak out when people ask for more gov't involvement with guns? Because everyone knows, they'll **** it up royally.

It does seem odd to me that I can just vote with a name. As I said before, what prevents me from using my neighbor's name? What if I went in my Grandpa's old district and tried to vote? If someone wants me to show my driver's license to vote - fine with me. Don't get me started on the DMV, my picture is from when I was 18, I'm now 42. So how good is that? People who actually need to see picture ID do a double take and I have to explain to them - does that look like my kid in the picture? Well it is 20+ years old.

My wife and I have been married 17 years, yet she still has to vote under her maiden name through her old district because every time she fills out the form nothing happens.

I think Trump is throwing out a red herring. I think people are giving gov't too much credit. Disorganization is the issue over actual fraud.

For the people who typically argue for less gov't in everything, you seem to want to add a lot of it, just in a different way.

one thing that would have helped our nation

Congress Is Pushing to Require Everyone to Use E-Verify. States Like Tennessee Are Already Doing It.

to

Immigration: E-Verify Amendment Defeated

one thing that never ever will happen (for reasons already discussed)

they will put an ID code on all of our foreheads before they will let something that effectively decides legal citizenship happen. The goal is control of those who live here. Just not over citizenship status.

That is why they are so eager to give everyone else guns (cartels, isis) while taking away and whittling away at our 2nd Amendment rights at home.

Ixiterra 12-01-2016 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18682849)
one thing that never ever will happen (for reasons already discussed)

they will put an ID code on all of our foreheads before they will let something that effectively decides legal citizenship happen.

according to kerosene using a smartphone app to verify someone's identity is clearly a huge waste of bloated government resources and but let's rely on 20+ year expired state IDs as an anecdote to how none of this could ever work

:nuts:

this isn't that difficult, every other country in the ****ing world worth naming does it

also, trump says stupid **** and it's pretty hard to "figuratively" interpret "millions" in voter fraud

JoMo 12-01-2016 17:09

James Bond has a license to kill.

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ixiterra (Post 18682856)
according to kerosene using a smartphone app to verify someone's identity is clearly a huge waste of bloated government resources and but let's rely on 20+ year expired state IDs as an anecdote to how none of this could ever work

:nuts:

this isn't that difficult, every other country in the ****ing world worth naming does it

also, trump says stupid **** and it's pretty hard to "figuratively" interpret "millions" in voter fraud

seriously

i mean even some states are having issues flying between states now

If You***8217;re From One of These Four States, You***8217;ll Likely Need a Passport for a Domestic Flight

Quote:

Driver***8217;s licenses from New York, Louisiana, Minnesota, New Hampshire, and the American Samoa will no longer be enough to get on a domestic commercial flight.
but hey, he is from NEW YORK

so forgetaboutit

http://i.imgur.com/NZ5hwpE.gif

=========================

also Reason.com has good media coverage, though very little of it, about his appointments. half the site likes him, half the site hates him.....which is a better amount of possibly ethical scrutiny than I give to most other places right now

Kerosene31 12-01-2016 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ixiterra (Post 18682856)
according to kerosene using a smartphone app to verify someone's identity is clearly a huge waste of bloated government resources and but let's rely on 20+ year expired state IDs as an anecdote to how none of this could ever work

:nuts:

this isn't that difficult, every other country in the ****ing world worth naming does it

also, trump says stupid **** and it's pretty hard to "figuratively" interpret "millions" in voter fraud

I have ZERO problem using something like e-verify for voter registration. To me, you really shouldn't be able to vote without an SSN. If that can be done at the polls efficiently, great.

Don't listen to Captain Strawman. Obviously posting some dumb video of some millennial is enough to refute anything from anyone who opposes the Orange One.

Not one person in this thread has refuted Trump's claim that millions of illegals voted for Hillary.

Fool 12-01-2016 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerosene31 (Post 18682873)
I have ZERO problem using something like e-verify for voter registration. To me, you really shouldn't be able to vote without an SSN. If that can be done at the polls efficiently, great.

Don't listen to Captain Strawman. Obviously posting some dumb video of some millennial is enough to refute anything from anyone who opposes the Orange One.

Not one person in this thread has refuted Trump's claim that millions of illegals voted for Hillary.


I have posted the blueprint for how it's possible, even plausible. Nobody can prove it without auditing voter rolls and determining who is or is not a citizen, but again that isn't the point. There is nothing being done to prevent it from happening, and therefore it's extremely likely that illegals do vote, and in great numbers.

Conversely there is zero evidence that Russians "hacked" the vote in the Rust Belt, nor is there any plausible evidence that such a thing could happen in those states, and yet you aren't attacking those claims. Your hypocrisy isn't your main concern however, you are simply looking to deflect as much attention as possible because adding very simplistic language to require proof of citizenship for registering, would eliminate almost any likelihood of this sort of fraud happening, would also mean a potential sharp decline in Democrat votes. If it turned out that 100% of illegal immigrants were voting in no ID states, that would be a possible loss of 11,000,000 votes for the Democratic party every election cycle.

JoMo 12-01-2016 17:26

Mad Dog Mattis for Sec Defense?!?!?!?!?

"Report: President-elect Trump picks retired Marine Gen. James Mattis for secretary of defense, sources tell Washington Post"

Odio 12-01-2016 17:38

They have been saying that for a week now. When is it going to happen?

MadHatSam 12-01-2016 17:38

Wonder if he ends up having to give any concessions to congress to grant Mattis a waiver.

He is pretty hawkish on Iran which seems pretty dumb, whatever.

Goshin 12-01-2016 17:39

Better mattis than Rick Perry

Kerosene31 12-01-2016 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fool (Post 18682883)
I have posted the blueprint for how it's possible, even plausible. Nobody can prove it without auditing voter rolls and determining who is or is not a citizen, but again that isn't the point. There is nothing being done to prevent it from happening, and therefore it's extremely likely that illegals do vote, and in great numbers.

Conversely there is zero evidence that Russians "hacked" the vote in the Rust Belt, nor is there any plausible evidence that such a thing could happen in those states, and yet you aren't attacking those claims. Your hypocrisy isn't your main concern however, you are simply looking to deflect as much attention as possible because adding very simplistic language to require proof of citizenship for registering, would eliminate almost any likelihood of this sort of fraud happening, would also mean a potential sharp decline in Democrat votes. If it turned out that 100% of illegal immigrants were voting in no ID states, that would be a possible loss of 11,000,000 votes for the Democratic party every election cycle.

I actually did call out the Dems on their recount.

Just because I oppose Trump doesn't mean I'm some liberal freak. I'm actually registered independent and I did not vote for Hillary (along with about a dozen other New Yorkers).

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Captain Tele 12-01-2016 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerosene31 (Post 18682873)
I have ZERO problem using something like e-verify for voter registration. To me, you really shouldn't be able to vote without an SSN. If that can be done at the polls efficiently, great.

Don't listen to Captain Strawman. Obviously posting some dumb video of some millennial is enough to refute anything from anyone who opposes the Orange One.

Not one person in this thread has refuted Trump's claim that millions of illegals voted for Hillary.

except that some millennial was an entire campus full of tools like u

which you are like third or forth string caterpillaring for

http://www.hotimagesfree.com/sites/d...?itok=mpPDFMMO

just break the chain

stop asking for evidence on something even you refuse to acknowledge is worthy of investigating

you are doing your damndest to never admit is possible...yet alone worthy of actual evaluation

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 17:51

...

JoMo 12-01-2016 18:03

So apparently the '***** and groan' of the week is that Trump's cabinet has a lot of rich people in it?

JoMo 12-01-2016 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odio (Post 18682893)
They have been saying that for a week now. When is it going to happen?

It's Washington Post, so it might be "Fake News".

"President-elect Trump transition spokesman Jason Miller says no decision has been made yet on defense secretary post, despite reports "

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18682929)
So apparently the '***** and groan' of the week is that Trump's cabinet has a lot of rich people in it?

being well funded was a good thing when it came to hillary's campaign

apparently the hedgefund losers back on the being rich is suddenly bad narrative again

maybe the rothchilds can hold them another 50k a plate dinner for them to collectively cry about this

spockhammer 12-01-2016 18:18

i want more monies and an island so all the ppl i know can live there 2

spockhammer 12-01-2016 18:19

the land of the tribal wars near fiji

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 18:19

well ****...me too dare

me too

we could all post from there then

on hammocks

spockhammer 12-01-2016 18:20

yep itd be really c00l if i had that privilege its too bad every1 fuccked me over HEY TY GUYS

T-Dawg 12-01-2016 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by havax (Post 18682829)
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Open your eyes
Look up to the skies
and see ...

spockhammer 12-01-2016 18:34

y this guy have 10k mac book at public library he is a rapist

JoMo 12-01-2016 18:43

Mattis sounds so badass.....

***8220;I come in peace. I didn***8217;t bring artillery. But I***8217;m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you f***8212; with me, I***8217;ll kill you all.***8221;

***8220;The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some a***8211;holes in the world that just need to be shot. There are hunters and there are victims. By your discipline, you will decide if you are a hunter or a victim.***8221;

***8220;I feel sorry for every son of a ***** that doesn***8217;t get to serve with you. Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.***8221;

***8220;You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn***8217;t wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain***8217;t got no manhood left anyway. So it***8217;s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it***8217;s quite fun to fight them, you know. It***8217;s a hell of a hoot. It***8217;s fun to shoot some people. I***8217;ll be right up there with you. I like brawling.***8221;

***8220;There are some people who think you have to hate them in order to shoot them. I don***8217;t think you do. It***8217;s just business.***8221;

***8220;We will move swiftly and aggressively against those who resist, we will treat others with decency, demonstrating chivalry and soldierly compassion for people who have endured a lifetime under Saddam***8217;s oppression. You are part of the world***8217;s most feared and trusted force. Engage your brain before you engage your weapon.***8221;

***8220;Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they***8217;re so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact.***8221;

***8220;I don***8217;t lose any sleep at night over the potential for failure. I cannot even spell the word.***8221;

ScooBySnaCk 12-01-2016 19:09

Flashback: Obama Mocks Trump for Promising to Keep Carrier Plant in U.S. :: Grabien News

**** bag globalist got owned already

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooByofTWFame (Post 18682988)

this outsourcing just a bunch of okie dokey

to a globalist community organizer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-66xJLd6Z0

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

now this i can dance to

OneManArmy 12-01-2016 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 18682608)
More Bad News:

Get Ready for the Trump Jobs Rally - WSJ

[definitely read the bottom of the article, sums up castro very well]

Anyway you could quote this article? Says I need membership to read...:razz:

cael 12-01-2016 19:26

trump saved 1000/2300 jobs at carrier

america #1 again

we're 43% back baby

spockhammer 12-01-2016 19:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G5-LnlGiaU

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:28

not even president elect and save more jobs than actual POTUS

but cael making fun of Hawaiian tourists and people who make stuff now

LOL

bite hand that feeds him his spam (thinks it was hillary herself)

ender makeover complete

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:28

so much hate post trump

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cyn-ZFKWEAAAmAy.jpg

fake hate

spockhammer 12-01-2016 19:29

digg down deep do the manual labor - rothschilds

no thx i prefer robot

cael 12-01-2016 19:30

43% is an A+ at trump university

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:33

and valedictorian at inner city school

i hear somalian machete student with sub 68 iq real envious of that

spockhammer 12-01-2016 19:35

i like 2 draw the hitler mural in math class desktop and the teacher say it worst hate crime he ever seen :( ??? y i like my black dick nuclear missile riding cowboy hitler in the clouds mural y dont u teacher???

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:43

Sally Kohn on Twitter:

liberals sudenly against solyndra and auto bailouts?

Jobs and wages | Hillary for America

Quote:

"The measure of our success will be how much incomes rise for hardworking families. How many children are lifted out of poverty. How many Americans can find good jobs that support a middle-class life***8212;and not only that, jobs that provide a sense of dignity and pride. That***8217;s what it means to have an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. That***8217;s the mission, and I***8217;m asking all of you to join me in it.
Hillary, June 22, 2016
LOL

Captain Tele 12-01-2016 19:46

Quote:

As president, Hillary will:

Launch our country***8217;s boldest investments in infrastructure since the construction of our interstate highway system in the 1950s.

Advance our commitment to research and technology in order to create the industries and jobs of the future.

Establish the U.S. as the clean energy superpower of the world***8212;with half a billion solar panels installed by the end of her first term and enough clean, renewable energy to power every home in America within 10 years of her taking office.

Strengthen American manufacturing with a $10 billion ***8220;Make it in America***8221; plan.

Cut red tape, provide tax relief and expand access to capital so small businesses can grow, hire, and thrive.

Ensure that the jobs of the future in caregiving and services are good-paying jobs, recognizing their fundamental contributions to families and to America.

Pursue smarter, fairer, tougher trade policies that put U.S. job creation first and get tough on nations like China that seek to prosper at the expense of our workers. This includes opposing trade deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership that do not meet a high bar of creating good-paying jobs and raising pay.

Commit to a full-employment, full-potential economy and break down barriers so that growth, jobs, and prosperity are shared in every community in America.
not even happy when they get what they voted for

MadHatSam 12-01-2016 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18683005)
not even president elect and save more jobs than actual POTUS

but cael making fun of Hawaiian tourists and people who make stuff now

LOL

bite hand that feeds him his spam (thinks it was hillary herself)

ender makeover complete

Thomas Friedman had a great quote about how many days it would take Trump to save as many jobs as Obama did with the auto bailout by making a carrier deal a day. It was a lot.

On one hand, good for Trump for working on keeping his campaign promises.

On the other how many corporate handouts do we need to save 43% of this one plant and none of the jobs of the parts maker that is still shipping 2000 to mexico.

Kinda encapsulate Trump, he does something easy (handout to Carrier) that he can say he won on without doing the harder thing of putting forth a larger and more sustainable policy that would discourage companies from moving in the first place.

JoMo 12-01-2016 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHatSam (Post 18683023)
Thomas Friedman had a great quote about how many days it would take Trump to save as many jobs as Obama did with the auto bailout by making a carrier deal a day. It was a lot.

On one hand, good for Trump for working on keeping his campaign promises.

On the other how many corporate handouts do we need to save 43% of this one plant and none of the jobs of the parts maker that is still shipping 2000 to mexico.

Kinda encapsulate Trump, he does something easy (handout to Carrier) that he can say he won on without doing the harder thing of putting forth a larger and more sustainable policy that would discourage companies from moving in the first place.

He's not even President yet.....

You are as bad as the press and pundits.......

MadHatSam 12-01-2016 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18683025)
He's not even President yet.....

You are as bad as the press and pundits.......

So is Trump going to go plant by plant to save America or not?

His trumpeting this as a win is typical behavior for him no matter what the actual details are, As long as he sells the optics to his satisfaction.


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