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-SS- 02-24-2022 10:43

Portuguese antifa are afraid to fight for the Ukrainians

cael 02-24-2022 10:45

u have to forgive anubis he's very confused right now

he's on ur side

-SS- 02-24-2022 10:46

naw

both of you are afraid to show up

:lol:

Gouge 02-24-2022 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veniggs (Post 19435288)
im with cornpop

Bro, Cornpop is a bad dude. No one has heard from him since he last molested Pedo-Joes hairy legs.

cael 02-24-2022 11:13

https://i.imgur.com/Wb09KMK.png

samUwell 02-24-2022 11:14

Gain of function labs

Veniggs 02-24-2022 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 19435436)
Bro, Cornpop is a bad dude. No one has heard from him since he last molested Pedo-Joes hairy legs.

nah, man, you got it all wrong. stupid son of a *****.

samUwell 02-24-2022 12:26

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMX_XAQX...pg&name=medium

AnubiS 02-24-2022 12:35

Quote:

When Kosovo declared independence from Serbia, the decision was enthusiastically recognized and supported by the Bush Administration. The Russian Federation, for its part, with Putin at the helm, condemned and opposed what it considered an aggression against Serbia's sovereignty. It was in 2008. Yesterday, therefore.

Since then, 13 years have passed. And yesterday, not surprisingly, the roles were reversed. Putin, like Bush, decided to recognize the independence of the Lugansk and Donetsk oblasts as independent republics. Biden, like Putin, was quick to condemn the violation of Ukrainian sovereignty.

To reduce what is happening in eastern Ukraine to "good" versus "bad" is complete nonsense. What is happening on the Russian-Ukrainian border is realpolitik happening. It is a clash between two powers that want exactly the same thing: to strengthen their position and their power. They give a **** about the Ukrainians, they give a **** about the Donbass separatists, they give a **** about the security of the EU. All of them are means to ends that are equally indifferent to secondary actors. In realpolitik, there is no room for ethical or moral considerations. Hard power, raw and unfeeling, as Nye described it.

It is important that this be very clear, because political science, not being a science that can afford to isolate experiments in the laboratory, obtaining mathematically accurate results, also has its absolute truths. One of them is this: the political actors who are confronted today in Ukraine are not interested in altruism or the defense of human rights. There is only and only the national interest of both powers, from the point of view of those who govern them. And this goes for both sides. If democracy and human rights were an absolute value, Europe would not be colonized by Chinese capital and selfies in the absolute monarchies of the Middle East would lose all their charm.

Putin intends to expand and consolidate the expansion of his sphere of influence, and, along the way, weaken the EU. End her, if possible. Not because he is ***8220;evil***8221; (Putin is a beast, but that is not what is at issue here), but because this is the way to increase his power and influence, at the limit his survival and the survival of the regime he personalizes. It is not for nothing that it finances the Eurosceptic European extreme right, which makes it even more anecdotal, or tragic, I don't know, to see people and left-wing parties defending it against American imperialism, as if Putin were Robin Hood. , with hammer and sickle in place of bow and arrows. And the recognition of the independence of the areas controlled by the separatists, which he had already supported for several years, will be his golden visa to rush to militarily assist his new allies, with whom he immediately signed ***8220;friendship***8221; pacts, which demonstrates that everything was planned. with some anticipation. In fact, Putin himself has already admitted to entering the territory to carry out a peacekeeping mission. The irony is beautiful, and it becomes more beautiful when it occurs to us that the Russian dictator specializes in poisons, not only for murdering opponents on British soil, but also for giving us a taste of our own. Karma, that relentless *****. Almost as ruthless as the oligarch-king.

Biden and his hawks, on the other hand, want to expand NATO, of which they are masters, and reinforce their military power, also reinforcing the power and profits of the arms industry, always so generous in times of election campaign. The same NATO that, in the aftermath of the dissolution of the USSR, guaranteed that it would not expand beyond Germany. As sure as the assurance you gave us 19 years ago about the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Basically, Ukraine will be Putin's Iraq: an invasion, disguised by false moral pretenses that do not interest Putin in the slightest, which will allow him to take over a part or even the whole country, depending on how the pieces are going to move. on the board. But let's not be naive: the US did what it could to make this the outcome. And the invasion of Ukraine will be the perfect pretext to get what they really want: to intervene militarily, generate trillion-dollar deals for the arms giants, almost all of them American, annex Ukraine through NATO, humiliate Putin, increase their sphere of influence and put additional pressure on China, its only real adversary, which has in the Russian Federation a sea of ***8203;***8203;land, hostile to the West, which itself functions as a buffer zone for Beijing.

I'm sorry if I disappoint the lyricists, who think they're witnessing a battle of good versus evil, but that's not what's happening. What is happening is a clash of interests between two powers, which literally don't give a damn about Ukraine. It's just another proxy war.

Veniggs 02-24-2022 12:58

mgs4 was right

HardDrive 02-24-2022 13:21

Who can forget the invasion/demilitarization of Serbia as a result of the independence of Kosovo in 2008? the two events really are identical

Zanthious 02-24-2022 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 19435419)
naw

both of you are afraid to show up

:lol:

Cael was waiting for smiling candian to show up and look what happened.. Dont be next bro

-SS- 02-24-2022 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanthious (Post 19435486)
Cael was waiting for smiling candian to show up and look what happened.. Dont be next bro

LMFAO

he wouldnt even give out an email address to flash over a bet

he has no ninja skills to worry about

we're talking about a spam goblin here

SkittleBrew 02-24-2022 13:37

I'll go with Ukraine cause they're the underdog

blackpeople 02-24-2022 13:42

SS is such a mook :lol:

Zanthious 02-24-2022 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 19435491)
LMFAO

he wouldnt even give out an email address to flash over a bet

he has no ninja skills to worry about

we're talking about a spam goblin here

ive actually met cael. he is a ****ing bad ass mother****er.

-SS- 02-24-2022 13:51

'Sup barney barback

you still cowering in fear over people without masks and vax at the bar or what?

-SS- 02-24-2022 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanthious (Post 19435502)
ive actually met cael. he is a ****ing bad ass mother****er.

is that so?

elaborate

blackpeople 02-24-2022 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 19435503)
'Sup barney barback

you still cowering in fear over people without masks and vax at the bar or what?

:lol:

Zanthious 02-24-2022 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 19435504)
is that so?

elaborate

dude is jacked af and laid back 0 ****s given bro. we trying to have a convo and the waitress and some chick hitting on him the whole time was gay af


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