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naptown 03-17-2016 21:59


Originally Posted by Got Haggis? (Post 18542781)
It's weird to me that people think Obama has been an awful president. Like scooby saying the worst are: carter, w, then Obama. I don't even.

i just assume ur trolling at this point

havax 03-17-2016 22:23

yeah wtf?

got haggis truly has blinders on and dreams of giant black cocks dancing in his head ffs

Pagy 03-17-2016 22:24


Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18542782)
For going on 3 months now her entire show is dedicated to destroying Trump.

silly dyke sure is doing a great job at it

dubsack 03-17-2016 22:53


Originally Posted by Got Haggis? (Post 18542781)
It's weird to me that people think Obama has been an awful president. Like scooby saying the worst are: carter, w, then Obama. I don't even.

Because all you can do is regurgitate news headlines, and have shown no ability to think for yourself on almost any political or social matter. Obama's presidency has been a **** show on almost every level. One of the worst things that happened under GWB was the Patriot Act, and Obama's policies not only doubled down but took it even further. Ignore all the partisan bull**** and look at what truly has (or hasn't changed) from GWB to now...

JoMo 03-17-2016 23:02

Been talking about everything wrong with our country for 35 years.

Odio 03-17-2016 23:40

I went with a liberal news source so got haggis can't complain about bias.


***8220;For the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as president: In 10 years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.***8221;

While the United States***8217; dependence on foreign oil has been declining since 2005, the United States is still importing crude oil from Middle Eastern countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Some have projected the United States to be energy independent by 2035.

As president, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I***8217;ll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I***8217;ll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars.

Natural gas reserves have increased under Obama, in large part because of the process known as fracking, which has raised concerns among environmental advocates. The Washington Post reported in February that the Department of Energy had invested $6 billion in clean coal technology.

In 2009, Obama released a plan to put 1 million cars with advanced technology on the road by 2015 by offering a combination of consumer rebates and giving car companies money to develop more efficient vehicles.

In March, the Obama administration cut back on its purchase goals for consumers. Since Obama took office, the United States government has bought just under 25,000 electric and hybrid vehicles. Bloomberg reported that consumers in the U.S. bought 286,814 of these models between 2009-2014, accounting for 3 percent of overall sales, which was helped by a spike in gas prices in the summer 2008. In 2012, the Obama administration also issued new rules that would nearly double the required fuel efficiency for new cars and trucks by 2025.

Despite having 61 operational nuclear power plants, and 99 nuclear reactors, there is still no permanent nuclear waste facility in the United States, The New Republic reported in January.

And I***8217;ll invest $150 billion over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy ***8212; wind power, and solar power, and the next generation of biofuels ***8212; an investment that will lead to new industries and 5 million new jobs that pay well and can***8217;t be outsourced.

In 2012, a Brookings Institution report projected that the Obama administration would spend about $150 billion on solar power and other renewable energy sources between 2009 and 2014.


I***8217;ll invest in early childhood education. I***8217;ll recruit an army of new teachers, and pay them higher salaries, and give them more support. And in exchange, I***8217;ll ask for higher standards and more accountability.

While funding for early childhood education did get a bump with the stimulus when Obama first took office, funding only slightly increased between 2008 and 2013. In December, Obama announced a $1 billion investment in early childhood programs through a combination of public and private sources.

While Obama increased merit pay for some teachers through his Race To The Top Program, a teacher service scholarship that he promised during his campaign never came to light.

Race To The Top, the signature education policy of Obama***8217;s presidency, offered incentives to states to raise educational standards, improve student performance and recruit new teachers. But the program has faced criticism for focusing too much on testing and tying teacher evaluations to test scores.

And we will keep our promise to every young American: If you commit to serving your community or our country, we will make sure you can afford a college education.

In 2009, Obama signed legislation that extended GI benefits to help veterans who served after Sept. 11 pay for college. In 2012, Obama also signed an executive order protecting veterans from deceptive practices by for-profit colleges. However, Senate Democrats have accused the Department of Education of misleading the public when it cleared its student loan servicers of cheating service members on their loans.


You know, unlike John McCain, I will stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

I***8217;ll eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and startups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.

I will cut taxes ***8212; cut taxes ***8212; for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class.

Obama has been unsuccessful in his efforts to close tax loopholes for companies to move jobs to other countries. Obama did attempt to address this by including proposed changes in his fiscal year 2014 budget. But Democrat-sponsored bills introduced to disincentives this failed in Congress in both 2012 and 2014.

In 2010, Obama signed a bill temporarily eliminating the capital gains tax for small business investments. While it was extended through 2011, the exclusion rate for small businesses reverted back to the pre-Obama level of 50 percent in 2012.

Obama***8217;s stimulus in 2009 cut taxes for 95 percent ***8212; 94.3 percent to be exact ***8212; of working families, allowing him to quickly follow through on his promise to do so.


If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don***8217;t, you***8217;ll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves.

And as someone who watched my mother argue with insurance companies while she lay in bed dying of cancer, I will make certain those companies stop discriminating against those who are sick and need care the most.

Now is the time to help families with paid sick days and better family leave, because nobody in America should have to choose between keeping their job and caring for a sick child or an ailing parent.

Most health care premiums have actually increased since the Obamacare exchanges opened in 2013. Under the law, members of Congress now get their employer insurance through the exchanges ***8212; the same place uninsured Americans can get coverage.

The Affordable Care Act does prohibit insurance companies from denying health care coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. However, there are loopholes in the act that insurance companies can take advantage of to avoid paying for their coverage.

The U.S. is the only OECD country that does not mandate paid sick or family leave. While Obama is taking steps this year to guarantee paid sick and family leave for federal workers, he has been unable to do so for the rest of the country. He did bring new attention to the issue during his 2015 State of the Union address, calling on Congress to pass a bill guaranteeing seven days of paid sick leave.


Now is the time to change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses, and the time to protect Social Security for future generations.

Obama has not taken action to reform Social Security while in office, though he once considered cutting benefits as part of a deal to get Republicans to go along with a deficit reduction deal. He eventually abandoned the proposal. In 2013, a judge in Detroit also ruled that employee pensions could be cut in bankruptcy.

And now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day***8217;s work, because I want my daughters to have the exact same opportunities as your sons.

The very first bill that Obama signed into law was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act, which gave workers more time to sue for descrimination. The Obama administration has made a pretty good effort at tackling the gender pay gap through executive actions, educational apps, memorandums, and the creation of a national equal pay task force. Although Obama has instructed federal contractors to report wage details by gender, Republicans have blocked equal pay legislation multiple times.

Now, many of these plans will cost money, which is why I***8217;ve laid out how I***8217;ll pay for every dime: by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens that don***8217;t help America grow.

Last year, the Treasury issued new tax rules to disincentivize companies from moving their headquarters to a tax-friendly country while maintaining operations in the United States.

But I will also go through the federal budget line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less, because we cannot meet 21st-century challenges with a 20th-century bureaucracy.

Shortly after he took office, Obama signed a spending bill that contained earmarks that he admitted he objected to. In 2011, Congress banned earmarks ***8212; money allocated for lawmakers***8217; pet projects ***8212; although some members have more recently been calling for the earmarks to return.

Foreign policy

As commander-in-chief, I will never hesitate to defend this nation, but I will only send our troops into harm***8217;s way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home.

Last year, the Obama authorized the United States to begin airstrikes against the Islamic State, but didn***8217;t submit a formal proposal to Congress authorizing force until several months later ***8212; a proposal that lawmakers are still considering.

In April, Obama described his foreign policy doctrine as ***8220;we will engage, but we preserve all our capabilities.***8221; In 2013, Obama seemed to be on the verge of attacking Syria after convincing signs that President Bashar al Assad used chemical weapons on its citizens, but abruptly changed course and decided to ask Congress for approval. That vote was avoided when Syria agreed to turn over what it portrayed as its stockpile of chemical weapons.

Obama has kept his promise to veterans to get them the care that they need by keeping the VA fully funded, increasing VA access in rural areas, and expanding housing vouchers for homeless vets.

But last year it was revealed that the VA kept secret waiting lists and and deliberately hid long wait times for veterans. The scandal eventually led to the resignation of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki and prompted Congress to pass legislation to reform the agency. Despite that reform, a rigid bureaucracy remains in place ***8212; documents obtained by The Huffington Post in July showed that more than 238,000 of the 847,000 veterans with pending applications for health care through the agency had died.

I will end this war in Iraq responsibly and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The last U.S. troops left Iraq in 2011 under a timetable that was initially negotiated by the administration of former President George W. Bush. Since then, Obama has ordered the deployment of more troops to Iraq to train Iraqi soldiers fight ISIS.

Obama authorized the successful mission that killed Osama bin Laden, the head of al Qaeda, in 2011, but the terrorist group has retained a strong presence in Syria and Yemen.

I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts

Defense spending under the Obama administration has declined since 2010, but spending is still 45 percent higher than pre-9/11 levels. There has been a push to retool how the military is funded, and that would be where Obama really has earned the bragging rights to say that he kept this promise.. The force may be getting trim at the request of the administration, but more resources are going towards next-generation warfare like cybersecurity and drone programs, and less spending on older programs like fighter jets and warthogs.

I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression.

In July, the United States and five other countries ***8212; including Russia ***8212; reached an agreement that will require the country to drastically downsize the amount of nuclear material that it has in exchange for lifting economic sanctions.

I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation, poverty and genocide, climate change and disease.

The United States partnered with five countries ***8212; the United Kingdom, China, Russia, Germany, France ***8212; to reach a nuclear agreement with Iran. After nearly 50 years of hostility, the Obama administration also normalized relations with Cuba.

Obama has also expanded the United States***8217; trade partners through an agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership with 11 Pacific countries. Some have raised objections to the deal over the human rights records of some of the countries involved.

Gun Control

The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than they are for those plagued by gang violence in Cleveland, but don***8217;t tell me we can***8217;t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals.

There have been numerous mass shootings since Obama has taken office. While he has issued 23 executive orders on gun control, Obama has said that failure to pass gun reform in Congress has been the most frustrating part of his presidency.

Odio 03-17-2016 23:48

Full List of Obama Tax Hikes

1. A 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco: On February 4, 2009, just sixteen days into his Administration, Obama signed into law a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco, a hike of 61 cents per pack. The median income of smokers is just over $36,000 per year.

3. Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax (takes effect Jan. 2014): If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees. Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion/10 years

5. Obamacare Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Tax hike of $32 bil/takes effect Jan. 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on ***8220;Cadillac***8221; health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions. CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956

7. Obamacare Medicine Cabinet Tax (Tax hike of $5 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Americans are no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

8. Obamacare HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Tax hike of $1.4 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

9. Obamacare Flexible Spending Account Cap ***8211; aka ***8220;Special Needs Kids Tax***8221; (Tax hike of $13 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (currently unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

10. Obamacare Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Tax hike of $20 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on total sales, even if the respective company does not earn a profit. Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

11. Obamacare "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI (Tax hike of $15.2 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

12. Obamacare Tax on Indoor Tanning Services (Tax hike of $2.7 billion/took effect July 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Making matters worse: According to a Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report, the Obama IRS didn***8217;t bother to issue compliance guidelines until three quarterly filing deadlines had passed: ***8220;By the time [IRS] notices were issued, tanning excise tax returns had been due for three quarters." Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

13. Obamacare elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Tax hike of $4.5 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

14. Obamacare Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Tax hike of $0.4 bil/took effect Jan. 1 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

15. Obamacare Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/took effect immediately): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by Obama-appointed HHS bureaucrats. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

16. Obamacare Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Tax hike of $22.2 bil/took effect Jan. 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

17. Obamacare Tax on Health Insurers (Tax hike of $60.1 bil/takes effect Jan. 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. Phases in gradually until 2018. Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

18. Obamacare $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives (Tax hike of $0.6 bil/takes effect Jan 2013). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

19. Obamacare Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 ($min/takes effect Jan. 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957

20. Obamacare ***8220;Black liquor***8221; tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion/took effect immediately). This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

21. Obamacare Codification of the ***8220;economic substance doctrine***8221; (Tax hike of $4.5 billion/took effect immediately). This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks ***8220;substance***8221; and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113

Vanster 03-18-2016 00:11


Originally Posted by Odio (Post 18542807)
The median income of smokers is just over $36,000 per year.

Is there a source for this? I wouldn't have guessed them to make half that.

Pirate Steve 03-18-2016 00:15

why not?

JoMo 03-18-2016 01:23

Getting more and more unhinged......

Threatening letter sent to Donald Trump son Eric Trump

Dangerdoggie 03-18-2016 02:17

here we go, Ross Perot 2.0

Nmag 03-18-2016 03:49

Wish we had someone with the power of Trump to stand for national leader. Our media is being increasingly sanitised to keep the population from knowing the impacts of the bleeding heart voters.

Melbourne Race Riot last Saturday night:

ArakAtak 03-18-2016 05:32


Originally Posted by Nmag (Post 18542887)
Wish we had someone with the power of Trump to stand for national leader. Our media is being increasingly sanitised to keep the population from knowing the impacts of the bleeding heart voters.

Melbourne Race Riot last Saturday night:

Not the first time

oz-african rampage enriches Melbourne suburb

Kerosene31 03-18-2016 07:02


Originally Posted by Got Haggis? (Post 18542781)
It's weird to me that people think Obama has been an awful president. Like scooby saying the worst are: carter, w, then Obama. I don't even.

That's partially his own fault. I honestly think Obama is trolling the right on purpose at this point. He talks about some things like Australia's gun laws which really piss off many people. Of course nothing ever happens on that front. (here's where someone posts some obscure exec order that also does nothing).

The same people will tell us that Trump would be ok as president because congress would keep him in line, freak out when Obama mentions something liberal as if it instantly just comes to pass.

2 party politics brainwashing.

Reggs 03-18-2016 07:31

Gun legislation will never change that much. It's in the media a lot, but it's just noise.

Al Gore lost his home state of Tennessee because he was in favor of it. That's a warning shot that still keeps Dems up at night. Dems push it, but in the end there is no political gain for it, so nothing ever moves. No one really throws their weight behind it.

beep boop 03-18-2016 07:42

well, apparently, this is one of the reasons the repubs are worried about getting the wrong supreme justice replacement tho

ZooL 03-18-2016 08:01

This place is starting to look more and more like

you are all


epidemic 03-18-2016 11:49

pagy neg rep me for insulting glorious leader bush lmao

figures he'd get his panties in a bunch over the man that lead us into an unwinnable war based on lies

hey pagy remind me how much yellow cake uranium we found in iraq again

Kerosene31 03-18-2016 11:53

Isn't pagy a canuck anyway?

samUwell 03-18-2016 12:02

These leftists are ****ing insane.

And then, there is this. When Trump Speaks at AIPAC, Let***8217;s All Walk Out. Starting to like Trump. :lol:

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