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Goshin 01-19-2011 10:47

Fixing the roads, changing America
 
I think i posted about this thing 18 months ago, but i can't remember.

The gist:
Solar road ways made of super glass that not only collect solar power, but once connected through a city, or the nation, provide power through the glass sections under the surface, thus revamping our entire power grid network.

18 months ago the dude was looking for funding, and still getting reserach accomplished. He's hoping to put in a prototype this year at his facility.


Some quotes

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How much would the solar highway cost? Brusaw calculates an estimated cost -- in great detail -- on his website. Short answer: each mile would cost $4.4 million. Payoff? A cleaner, self-sustaining highway that would eventually pay for itself in energy production and in other ways, he said.

-- How can glass provide enough traction while supporting the weight, wear and tear of a conventional concrete or asphalt highway? Glass, especially when fused together in layers, is stronger than most people think, said Brusaw. He said he's joined forces with top glass researchers at University of Dayton and Penn State who can develop super-strong glass that would offer vehicles the traction they need.

-- Can the solar highway's surface collect enough sunlight when it's filled with bumper-to-bumper traffic? Yes, he says. Even when roadways are filled with bumper-to-bumper traffic, solar collection would be at 50 percent, he estimates.

As for Brusaw, he hopes to win more private and federal support by demonstrating a new prototype smart-road parking lot to be finished in the spring.

His goal would be to partner with a high-profile national chain like McDonald's or Walmart to turn their conventional parking lots into solar-powered, interactive, temperature-controlled spaces where electric-vehicle owners can recharge their cars while they shop or drive across the country.

"The Federal Highway Administration told us they're not going to let us go out on the highway to start this," said Brusaw. "They told us to go into the parking lot first, prove your technology, perfect it and learn your lessons there -- which makes sense."

Electricity generated by the highway could be used to recharge electric vehicles and to power lights and LED warning signs along the road itself.

In fact, Brusaw believes that solar roadways -- if widely accepted -- could eventually generate clean electricity around the world, eliminating the need for fossil fuels and saving the planet from global climate change.


i'm a freaking visionary
:king:
click for more infos

Falhawk 01-19-2011 10:49

probably would be fun to drive on in the snow.

absent 01-19-2011 10:50

Poor Goshin thinks America will improve. :lol:

Mitchdubai 01-19-2011 10:52

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Originally Posted by Goshin (Post 16150163)
I think i posted about this thing 18 months ago, but i can't remember.

You'll no doubt be pleased to hear that after 18 months it's still a ****ing stupid idea. That's the sort of ridiculous **** Dubai would have pulled two years ago when they were working on having the beach at the Pallazzo Versace apartments covered with air-conditioned sand.

Kerosene31 01-19-2011 10:53

$4.4 million per mile? Yeah it isn't like that is prohibitively expensive or anything in the least.

Anguish 01-19-2011 10:58

Sounds very practical. 4.4 mil.

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-=ROOSTER=- 01-19-2011 11:09

goshinwar

telos 01-19-2011 11:17

4.4 million doesn't tell us ****.
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+ SR 18 widening in rural King County - about $24.5 million per mile.
+ US 12 widening south of Tri Cities - about $3.7 million per mile.
+ I-5 widening in Vancouver ***8211; about $20.2 million per mile.
+ I-90 truck climbing lanes east of Cle Elum and at Vantage ***8211; about $1 million per mile.
+ I-5 HOV lanes from Tukwila to Fife ***8211; about $7 million per mile
How much does it cost to build a road one mile?

Where does it cost 4.4 million? How many lanes?

{FSC}Godfather 01-19-2011 11:18

if it heated itself and melted ice it would be freaking awesome

Rev. Zen 01-19-2011 11:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4L18zOEYI

comatoast 01-19-2011 11:22

I'm sure oils/fluids from vehicles, road grit, tire skids, etc. won't render this ineffective at all.

TooSmoothe 01-19-2011 11:26

I don't feel like reading in to it but could you answer some questions for me:

- Say someone breaks an axle or something and ends trashing a good 150ft section. How much road would have to be replaced?

- I live in MN, we need roads to be plowed a lot. Would we have to design a whole new fleet of plows that don't damage this road?

- How would they stop light reflection?

Goshin 01-19-2011 11:27

private industry
if he uses walmart/shopping center parking lots to prove the tech and maybe make it cheaper (manufacturing law, build more = everything cheaper) then who knows

probably 4.4mil for a 1 lane road, since they build it in 12x12 sections

150 feet of road, about 13 sections need to be replaced, which can be rolled off a line and plopped down in the damaged area

road heats itself, melts snow and ice. dont need plows

unsure on light reflection

:king:

Fling 01-19-2011 11:29

seems like keeping it clean might be a problem.

Fox k 01-19-2011 11:37

I just don't see this happening.

{FSC}Godfather 01-19-2011 11:38

isnt this really the type of crazy thinking that we need to start embracing though?

It would be better then doing what we are doing now with roads, especially in the north where you pretty much have to replace roads every other year it seems.

Stealth 01-19-2011 11:47

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Originally Posted by Fling (Post 16150229)
seems like keeping it clean might be a problem.

Solar panels have to be constantly cleaned in order to maintain efficiency. I live in the northeast and the roads are incredibly dirty and scummy. I don't think this would be a good match for solar technology.

Kerosene31 01-19-2011 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooSmoothe (Post 16150224)
I don't feel like reading in to it but could you answer some questions for me:

- Say someone breaks an axle or something and ends trashing a good 150ft section. How much road would have to be replaced?

- I live in MN, we need roads to be plowed a lot. Would we have to design a whole new fleet of plows that don't damage this road?

- How would they stop light reflection?

Yeah the idea of a road that needs little or no maintenance is silly at least for many areas.

Fling 01-19-2011 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by {FSC}Godfather (Post 16150238)
isnt this really the type of crazy thinking that we need to start embracing though?

It would be better then doing what we are doing now with roads, especially in the north where you pretty much have to replace roads every other year it seems.

Absolutely. It's out of the box creativity, but in this particular case, I think it might be ineffective.

P Masta Flex 01-19-2011 11:53

they're right though, they really need to think small scale before they think big like highways


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