The stake is there in the form of upcoming scotus appointments. Already get one. The old liberals will probably die off soon too. Unlike the dems, the repubs will push through a candidate even if a second vacancy appears late in Trump's term.

Fine.

The bottom 47% of households has negative networth.

He said he was going to pick successful people, those people are usually rich. Did you expect him to pick the nearest StarBucks barista to be Sec of State?

Rooster thought Bernie was going to give people free stuff, obviously he doesn't know how government works.

ADRIAN!

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Question:

What foreign policy did Owebama have when his punk ass was elected?

World apology tour

Drew a red line in the sand

Is now accusing Russia of hacking

Lubz me some Double Standards

dont care that russia annexes crimea but ready to go to war for airing DNC's dirty laundry

when progressives heard he was picking cabinet members, they mistook it for cabinets at the local hardware store. . .

Its Friday. :bacon:

You say that as if they didn't fully expect Putin to take Crimea. Which, may I add, was the only logical conclusion and quite justified.

Trump could've kept Obama's cabinet and libs would still complain about the picks.

Oh in case you missed the 500 emails, Healthcare.gov just extended the deadline.

No thanks.

Crimea is sketchy as ****. Given stalins depopulation of Ukraine after the war by sending them and tatars to Siberia and flooding Crimea with Russians since it's ****ing beautiful, using hitler's 'must protect ethnic group x' as a means of territorial expansion has largely been written off as legal

Crimea had importance due to their black Sea naval base and transcaucasian pipelines which took it through Crimean centered exclusive economic zone and Russia not wanting Europe to have a chance to get away from their pipelines.

As always follow the oil.

There's also the whole deal that they are our allies. Whether they should be or not is another deal. I'm a bleeding heart who feel france/UK ****ed poland/czechoslovakia in ww2 and an independent Ukraine is key for an independent poland. Poland also loves us and there are better deals with those who care for us.

The only time Crimea was a part of Ukraine was the brief stint during the USSR. Ever since the Muscovites conquered it from the Crimean Tatars, it has been a part of Russia. Ukraine itself is a very late creation and has no claim to that part of land whatsoever, not having fought for it, and the time period during USSR being more of an administrative convenience.

This is where we get into popular sovereignty being a trickier conception than it seems. If the tatars weren't exported against their will, who would they want to be with? Was it their fault by allowing poor leadership ? Likewise, are we supposed to go back to the crimean khanate as the only legal historical representative of crimeans and they should have their territory?

Short answer: if you have the power to enfranchise yourself a nation, then do it or don't. Your nation must enforce it's borders militarily and diplomatically. Russia did a great job splitting Ukrainians against an eu-aligned government and has lost a part of their country, maybe more we will see how the donetsk basin plays out. We were too weak to step in on Crimea as was most egregiously their own military.

All Crimea is useful now as a bartering chip diplomaticly

Ukrainians aren't even a specific people, they're Russians. The Ukrainian nationalist movement was basically created by Poland after the Poles lost their foothold in that region. Ukrainians speak "Ukrainian" which isn't a separate language, but a local dialect.

I mean that's most Slavic countries isn't it?

Well ruthenian. Ukraine is a proto Palestinian like state. As an American I'm down with supporting Poland as they support our interests carte blanche so that's my bias and at least I understand it. I think it was pilsudski who said their can't be an independent Poland without an independent ukraine. **** gets weird as you start going back to the collapse of the poland lithuanian commonwealth

Crimea was never going to be a bargaining chip.

The US withdrew from a 30+ year anti ballistic missile treaty with the Russians and now they have missile installations in Romania, bordering the Black Sea. The thought that Putin would simply shrug off Crimea as a loss is laughable. It's not about oil or politics or any of that bull****.

Syria fell, the people cried for help, the UN ignored it, capitalism won over life and freedom, the world commit another global atrocity for pride and money, genocide and hate continues and everyone feels justified because they took some LSD smoked some reefer and listened to the Beatles a couple times.

Obama told Putin to stop hacking and he did. LOL Right......

As far as what's going to be done.

" Stuff will be done but not necessarily announced, but they'll know"

stop all that whacky hacky stuff

okie doke

Obama said no Russian tampering with the voting process, blames the media for writing stories about the Wikileaks, didn't do anything about it sooner because the Administration wanted to appear 'neutral' in the election..... Obama won't declassify any evidence that shows the Russian hacking because it would disclose sources and intelligence methods....

obama ruining the excuse train

Michelle Obama says America is entering a time of hopelessness

These people are so arrogant.

there is no arrogance about capitalism and hate's triumph over social welfare and community support

syria is the best example of this lately

entering a time of first ladies that actually look female

emotional drivel

Just so we're clear...the media and the DNC colluded to help Hillary win and Obama thinks that should have been covered up?

Russia, Russia, Russia!

The most damaging one was the "public vs private position" in one of Clinton's speeches....

It's a bargaining chip. USA eventually says fine we will accept you taking Crimea if you do x.

The missile shield is the big thing. There's a reason Russia is upgrading their nuclear arsenal and refuses to decrease. The missile shield negates Russian nuclear advantage....except it's well not the best and can be swarmed over. Unfortunately it's not politically in vogue to be making a **** ton of nukes so they take a ding on it. Nukes can be used for offense, shields are for defense. Offensive capability is the crux of power projection and any attempt to undermine it, they will counter.

Yes it is about oil (direct sales profits as well as underlying energy security for the EU as it is the basis of a stable economy) there is a reason why they care about ukraine - supplies into the Balkans and central europe. Russia exports their resources and there is a reason why Gazprom is owned largely if not all (I forget) owned by the Russian government. EU energy prices are huge profit makers and the EU can't go elsewhere particularly for natural gas. Maybe American liquid natural gas terminals can supply a portion but certainly not all and certainly not right now.

This is a tangled Web and the baltics down to the red Sea and over to central Asia is the triangle of political power. Be as far forward into the other's base so as to have as much power. That being said, it's easier to do things on your borders than 5k miles away

VS a communist-fascist-capitalist government like russia and china rigging votes?


sorry i pick Bernie through and through

also stop pretending to be me on SA

Yeah, most stupid people pick socialism. They aren't smart enough to survive in a free market society.

uh huh

michelle obama needs to learn how to draw eyebrows ffs

Sheboon Nigress has nothing on the new Slovenian Queen.

Finally bringing some style back to the 'House.

"Sources: Electors in the Electoral College will not receive an intelligence briefing on Russian hacking - NPR"

He tries, okay.