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amRam 01-20-2021 19:36

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Originally Posted by Kiint (Post 19289528)
So something as simple as raising taxes would be considered anti-capitalist or ultra-progressive?

Wat? No. Neither. Now you're talking about fiscal policy.

Kiint 01-20-2021 19:37

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19289530)
Wat? No. Neither. Now you're talking about fiscal policy.

So what kind of policies has Biden expressed that are of concern to you?

uno 01-20-2021 19:39

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Originally Posted by lemontw (Post 19289526)
so

A CANADIAN WALKS INTO A BAR AND SITS DOWN WITH 2 AUSTRALIANS

And valcum will serve them

amRam 01-20-2021 19:39

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Originally Posted by Kiint (Post 19289532)
So what kind of policies has Biden expressed that are of concern to you?

None that Im aware of. But Im Canadian. I don't care if they let a bunch of Mexicans and Hondurans into their country. I also very very much doubt that Mr 80 year old white Christian Biden is even remotely socially progressive.

Kiint 01-20-2021 19:41

Okay, so there's not actually a threat at the moment, just a perceived one from the perspective of a general societal attitude towards "left" progression?

MC Hamster 01-20-2021 19:43

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19289520)
Trump had no clout. That's why he didn't really get anything done.

The left is of higher consequence because they control the media, education, and tech.

Didn't he have both the House and Senate when he began?

Won't really speak to the media, that's just going to start a mess.. but education and tech has always been, and is always going to be dominated by the left. If you take a second to think about those sectors, it makes perfect sense and would be odd if it were otherwise.

JuggerNaught 01-20-2021 19:43

No, its from the words and actions of Biden and those that surround him

amRam 01-20-2021 19:45

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Originally Posted by MC Hamster (Post 19289542)
Didn't he have both the House and Senate when he began?



Won't really speak to the media, that's just going to start a mess.. but education and tech has always been, and is always going to be dominated by the left. If you take a second to think about those sectors, it makes perfect sense and would be odd if it were otherwise.

The GOP battled him early on. The president doesn't lead the house or the senate, nor is he a legislator. Everybody hated the dude, let's get real. Maybe you weren't paying attention to the GOP in 2015 and 2016.

amRam 01-20-2021 19:46

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Originally Posted by Kiint (Post 19289540)
Okay, so there's not actually a threat at the moment, just a perceived one from the perspective of a general societal attitude towards "left" progression?

MC and I weren't talking about Biden or an existing legislative threat. We were talking about far left vs far right ideology. I challenged his assertion that the far right poses a bigger societal threat.

JuggerNaught 01-20-2021 19:46

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Originally Posted by MC Hamster (Post 19289542)
Didn't he have both the House and Senate when he began?

Won't really speak to the media, that's just going to start a mess.. but education and tech has always been, and is always going to be dominated by the left. If you take a second to think about those sectors, it makes perfect sense and would be odd if it were otherwise.

The only reason those sections would be 'dominated' by the left is that those jobs require (usually) college education and colleges tend to be leftist pits. Leftist tend to be people that haven't actually been out in the world to see how hard and ****ty it can be, yet want to create policy about how to deal with the world as they would like it or perceive it to be, not how it really is.

Kiint 01-20-2021 19:47

So I'm still trying to understand, what do you consider (from a policy perspective) a progressive threat to capitalism or ultra progressive, and why are they a threat more specifically (either as a Canadian, or from your opinion of the US).

MC Hamster 01-20-2021 19:48

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19289529)
THEY HAVE A GREAT ****ING TIME.

THE END

Damn straight. Still chatting with FB friends from a night spent in a Vancouver bar after going to watch the Canucks beat the Flames a few years back. Just got chatting with random strangers in the queue on the way in and wound up getting thoroughly drunk with them, had a great night.

Vanster 01-20-2021 19:48

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Originally Posted by MC Hamster (Post 19289542)
Didn't he have both the House and Senate when he began?

He did.

T-Dawg 01-20-2021 19:51

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Originally Posted by Kiint (Post 19289503)

He went to work right away on his perfect healthcare plan

Kiint 01-20-2021 19:53

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19289550)
I challenged his assertion that the far right poses a bigger societal threat.

I agree with the Hamster, and the reason why I agree is that the far right in general, demonstrated by many countries through history and most recently in the last four years of the US, have demonstrated a propensity towards regressive, restrictive, and societally destructive policies including taking away the rights of people (abortion choice for example) and relaxing restrictions on corporations to prey on the public with impunity.

The right do not engage in progressive policies that improve the general wellbeing of the people as a whole.

That is why the far right represents a greater societal threat.

MC Hamster 01-20-2021 19:58

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Originally Posted by JuggerNaught (Post 19289551)
The only reason those sections would be 'dominated' by the left is that those jobs require (usually) college education and colleges tend to be leftist pits. Leftist tend to be people that haven't actually been out in the world to see how hard and ****ty it can be, yet want to create policy about how to deal with the world as they would like it or perceive it to be, not how it really is.

Education is more of a selfless profession. It is passing along the assets (knowledge) you have built through your lifetime to a new generation. It is sacrificing your own advantages over other individuals with the aim of improving society as a whole. That's pretty much the definition of leftism.

As far as tech goes... one of the defining traits of technology is that it's new. The people who do the best at that are the people who are most open to new things. That kinda rules out 'conservative' by definition.

Flash 01-20-2021 19:59

It is so painfully obvious that fat **** just watches news to develop all of his opinions. His entire belief system is about belonging to a tribe as you can tell he doesn***8217;t know anything about economics in general and even less about American politics.

MC Hamster 01-20-2021 20:00

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19289547)
The GOP battled him early on. The president doesn't lead the house or the senate, nor is he a legislator. Everybody hated the dude, let's get real. Maybe you weren't paying attention to the GOP in 2015 and 2016.

So what you're saying is the Great Businessman, author of "The Art of the Deal"... could not make a deal? with his own party??

havax 01-20-2021 20:00

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Originally Posted by MC Hamster (Post 19289572)
Education is more of a selfless profession. It is passing along the assets (knowledge) you have built through your lifetime to a new generation. It is sacrificing your own advantages over other individuals with the aim of improving society as a whole. That's pretty much the definition of leftism.

As far as tech goes... one of the defining traits of technology is that it's new. The people who do the best at that are the people who are most open to new things. That kinda rules out 'conservative' by definition.

such complete and utter bull****

but please, go on

Flash 01-20-2021 20:02

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Originally Posted by MC Hamster (Post 19289574)
So what you're saying is the Great Businessman, author of "The Art of the Deal"... could not make a deal? with his own party??

If you think Trump is part of the GOP and didnít just hijack their party Iím not sure what rock you have been living under. Bush endorsed Biden for **** sake.


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