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Falhawk 10-15-2020 18:09

Also seriously we cannot bury ngfm wanting the USA to make its own religion. That's a TWHOF post.

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Falhawk 10-15-2020 18:11

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19246861)
As a sidebar to the discussion, prayer and other mental exercise can and does cure various illnesses. I suppose the question then is whether the illness it cured was "physical" and what that means in the first place.

Prayer itself does not; however if someone who is fighting an illness has their emotional state lifted by knowing people care (perhaps praying) then it puts the body in a better place to heal.

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Amadeus 10-15-2020 18:11

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Originally Posted by Falhawk (Post 19246867)
I agree with this very much with only adding a 'yet' at the end

Too bad amRam doesn't agree with it. Because he doesn't just stop at "we don't know", he goes on to say "therefore not physical".

Vanster 10-15-2020 18:44

A donkey talked
A man lived in a fish
The sun stood still for a day
A woman was turned into salt
A snake talked
A man rode a tornado into heaven
Hundreds of thousands of animals lived on a 500' boat
Water droplets didn't refract light until that boat landed on a mountain
Plants grew before there was sunlight
Tooting a horn and yelling will cause a city's stone walls to collapse
Zombies wandered around Jerusalem

But anthropogenic climate change, human evolution, and the SARS-CoV-2 causing a pandemic are just a bunch of overhyped bull****.

Go go Tribalwar :lol:

amRam 10-15-2020 18:54

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Originally Posted by Amadeus (Post 19246870)
Too bad amRam doesn't agree with it. Because he doesn't just stop at "we don't know", he goes on to say "therefore not physical".

We'll discover the consciousness molecule? That's some serious faith ya got there... Lol

amRam 10-15-2020 18:55

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Originally Posted by Vanster (Post 19246883)
A donkey talked
A man lived in a fish
The sun stood still for a day
A woman was turned into salt
A snake talked
A man rode a tornado into heaven
Hundreds of thousands of animals lived on a 500' boat
Water droplets didn't refract light until that boat landed on a mountain
Plants grew before there was sunlight
Tooting a horn and yelling will cause a city's stone walls to collapse
Zombies wandered around Jerusalem

But anthropogenic climate change, human evolution, and the SARS-CoV-2 causing a pandemic are just a bunch of overhyped bull****.

Go go Tribalwar [emoji38]

Add this one to your list:

A drunken retard took the bible literally

Amadeus 10-15-2020 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19246888)
We'll discover the consciousness molecule? That's some serious faith ya got there... Lol

Hey look, a strawman.

That's what people who are correct and intellectually honest use, I hear.

amRam 10-15-2020 19:12

Discussions with you always devolve into bull**** semantics and nitpicking words. We've reached a point where you're basically telling me that consciousness is physical. I suppose music and poetry and storytelling are then also physical, like dreams and ideas, insofar as they require a physical body and a physical world to exist in.

Falhawk if you needed a quick crash course in why discussions about religious ideas are fruitless, amapedo summarized it for you succinctly.

Amadeus 10-15-2020 19:23

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19246899)
Discussions with you always devolve into bull**** semantics and nitpicking words. We've reached a point where you're basically telling me that consciousness is physical. I suppose music and poetry and storytelling are then also physical, like dreams and ideas, insofar as they require a physical body and a physical world to exist in.

Falhawk if you needed a quick crash course in why discussions about religious ideas are fruitless, amapedo summarized it for you succinctly.

"We don't know how it works" and "it's not physical" are two very different sentences that mean two very different things.

Pretending that this is a minor distinction or nitpicking is not going to make you look better.

You'll also note that I never stated that consciousness is physical. I asked you how you concluded that it isn't, and all you had was god of the gaps.

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Originally Posted by Amadeus (Post 19246749)
If these discussions are a waste of time, it's because people are unwilling to admit that they have no good reason to believe the things they believe, and especially have no good reason to tell others that they should believe the same things.

Thanks for proving my point.

amRam 10-15-2020 19:27

I said it doesn't occupy the space of the physical sciences. Tell me you're not refuting this please....

The fact that consciousness is not physical goes without saying.

Falhawk 10-15-2020 19:31

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19246899)

Falhawk if you needed a quick crash course in why discussions about religious ideas are fruitless, amapedo summarized it for you succinctly.

Yeah I'm ignoring his stuff because his whole mo is semantics and words

WORDS MATTER



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Amadeus 10-15-2020 19:41

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Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19246904)
I said it doesn't occupy the space of the physical sciences. Tell me you're not refuting this please....

The fact that consciousness is not physical goes without saying.

To both of those, I ask again: how did you come to that conclusion?

And try not to give me god of the gaps this time.

lemon 10-15-2020 19:42

ur parents must hate u

Amadeus 10-15-2020 19:43

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Originally Posted by Falhawk (Post 19246905)
Yeah I'm ignoring his stuff because his whole mo is semantics and words

WORDS MATTER



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"The sky is yellow."

"No, the sky is blue."

"SEMANTICS OMFG"

Neolight 10-15-2020 19:44

hey im in this thread

lemon 10-15-2020 19:45

r dragon religion

amRam 10-15-2020 19:50

Did he really just ask me how I concluded consciousness is not physical? Holy ****.

lemon 10-15-2020 19:56

consciousness is not physical because there is no consciousness

prove me wrong

Falhawk 10-15-2020 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by amRam (Post 19246904)
I said it doesn't occupy the space of the physical sciences. Tell me you're not refuting this please....

The fact that consciousness is not physical goes without saying.

Well, and I'm saying this to take his legs out from under him and and also acknowledging that it is an ******* response, consciousness is not a physical understanding yet, but the simple fact that all of our chemical processes are in fact physical means that at some point we might have a clear link.

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lemon 10-15-2020 20:16

LOL


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