this looks like a troll to me. you suggest that pk should go for a walk into the radioactive area. his point (rationally argued) was that the media was overstating the situation before the event was over, which he thought was inappropriate. he said you were being unreasonably hostile to him.

i'm just saying how this looks. if you don't think that this is trolling, i don't know what trolling is to you.

wtf is a micro sievert

I was proving a point that there is radioactivity around the plant when they were saying it's still perfectly safe. The trolls before this were saying no radiation gets out if there is a loss of containment.

A measurement of radiation. 1000 is what people are exposed to in a typical year, so over 8000! is pretty high. Not OMG WE'RE GONNA DIE high, but not good.

having a point has nothing to do with trolling. how you choose to argue your point is the trolling part. goshin had a point too. but he's a troll and you are not, right?

i've stated my case. if you refuse to acknowledge your part in bring the dialogue on this disaster into the ****, that's your problem.

It sounds a lot like a rad, they both need about 500 rads/sieverts to do real harm

You appear to be trolling this topic yourself now Log, pot kettle black :)

Radioactivity is everywhere you know. Your house for example.

you just challenged me to point out to you where you were acting like a troll

and now that i have complied with your request, i am a troll

jesus christ what is the ****ing point

Yes, but a rock and the current state of Fukushima nuclear facilities, is quite a difference.

So if someone calls you out on something he can't even admit to what it is, you wouldn't be compelled to prove your point that he is just being a dick?

do you seriously not see the amazing irony of this post

the only thing worth reading right now. Cliffs at the bottom for all you lazy ****s.

What's so ironic about treating people how they treat you?

BREAKING NEWS: TEPCO admits possibility of meltdown at Fukushima reactors

You're behind. TEPCO is evacuating staff, radiation levels are up to 8 times the yearly limit. Reactor #2 is now internally damaged and may be leaking radiation and TEPCO just said there may be a meltdown.

for reference:
Radiation poisoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the measurements there are Sieverts.

Micro Sieverts are standard SI unit derivation, 1 ***956;Sv = 0.000001 Sv.

So, there you have a fairly decent approximation of what kinds of levels we are seeing.

some dude who isnt there tries to sound smart

no one cares

reliable link? Not CNN, or FOX news.

because according to

World Nuclear News

and

Media updates on nuclear power stations in Japan | ANS Nuclear Cafe

1 and 3 are near cold shut down, and now they are just working on 2

Dunno if this was posted in thread yet... ****it:

Before/After

I just watched the news conference on NHK a bit ago by the plant operators that just apologized and apologized:

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/

Also being reported on:
BBC News - LIVE: Japan earthquake

As well as here:

Japan earthquake | Page 68 | Liveblog live blogging | Reuters.com

Loss of coolant at Fukushima Daiichi 2
BREAKING NEWS Serious damage to the reactor core of Fukushima Daiichi 2 seems likely after coolant was apparently lost for a period. Seawater is again being injected, but coolant level is unknown.

just a normal day at the office working on the reactor?

Just because its not "another day at the office" doesn't mean that its going to melt down and we're looking at Chernobyl #2. You're all blowing this way out of proportion.

Germanys most serious channel is boardcasting "Das Boot".
Can't be too bad.

;// What's going on

Most of us know that its not anything near as catastrophic as Chernobyl. We're just really interested in what is happening; we're also aware that while not terribly dangerous in terms of radiation, some level of threat is still there.

Also, technically, it is melting down.

It won't be Chernobyl #2. It can release a lot of radiation though.

I mean what part of "TEPCO admits possibility of meltdown at Fukushima reactors"

Also this just came across Kyodo:

BULLETIN: Container damaged, radioactive materials feared to leak at Fukushima plant
TOKYO, March 15, Kyodo

Radiation is feared to have leaked after the container vessel was damaged at the No. 2 reactor of the Fukushima nuke plant Tuesday morning, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

dropsquad is the band playing on the titanic while it sinks

DV seems on the level. Either Jomo and Flyers are trolling or they are secretly hoping for the worst. Either way, pretty much anyone who knows wtf they are talking about has said the worst has happend and now its time to fix things up. #1, 3 and 4 are shut down. All efforts are on getting #2 to chill the **** out which it is VERY close to doing.

No? This is really happening.

DV must be full of tards or something?

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/78021.html

Radiation is feared to have leaked after the container vessel suffered damage at the No. 2 reactor of the quake-hit Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant Tuesday morning, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

The utility also admitted that a critical situation called ''meltdown'' in which fuel rods melt and are destroyed is possible at the plant where three reactor cores are believed to have partially melted following Friday's magnitude 9.0 earthquake that hit northeastern and eastern Japan.

An explosion was heard early Tuesday morning at the reactor and the radiation level temporarily shot up later, the firm said as it continued efforts to prevent overheating of exposed fuel rods.

Shortly after the apparent blast at 6:10 a.m., which appears to have damaged the reactor's pressure-suppression system, the radiation level exceeded the legal limit to reach 965.5 micro sievert per hour before jumping to 8,217 micro sievert at 8:31 p.m., it said.

The maximum level is more than eight times the 1,000 micro sievert level to which people can be exposed in one year.

The utility said it is evacuating workers from the plant, except for those necessary for work to cool the reactor.

The reactor's fuel rods were fully exposed for around two and a half hours Monday evening after water levels rapidly fell, and again late Monday night although seawater was being injected, prompting the utility to open some steam valves at 1:10 a.m. Tuesday in order to resume pumping seawater.

The water level recovered somewhat later in the morning to cover about 1.2 meters of the fuel rods, about one-third of their height, the firm said.

Prime Minister Naoto Kan said earlier in the morning that the government and TEPCO will set up an integrated headquarters, headed by himself, to address issues at the Fukushima No. 1 plant.

With radiation levels around the facility up, TEPCO suspects the core of the No. 2 reactor has partially melted, a critical nuclear safety situation.

The development follows hydrogen blasts at both of the plant's two other reactors whose cores are also believed to have partially melted, occurring Saturday at the No. 1 reactor and Monday at the No. 3 reactor.

''A worrisome situation remains but I hope to take the lead in overcoming this crisis,'' Kan said of the nuclear power plant. ''I will take all measures so that damage will not expand.''

At the headquarters set up at the TEPCO head office, with TEPCO president and the economy, trade and industry minister serving as its deputy chiefs, Kan confronted TEPCO officials about their delay in reporting the initial blast.

Japan has asked the United States to provide more cooling equipment to help stabilize the plant, Gregory Jaczko, chairman of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said in Washington. The NRC has already sent two technological experts and is fully supporting Japanese efforts, he said.

The No. 2 reactor automatically shut down after the magnitude 9.0 earthquake hit the region on Friday. Its reactor cooling function was lost on Monday and water levels rapidly dropped, fully exposing fuel rods for around two and a half hours from 6:30 p.m.

Seawater was injected and water levels were increased temporarily but late Monday night they started dropping, leading to full exposure of the rods again.

At 1:10 a.m. Tuesday, TEPCO opened some steam valves and resumed work to pump seawater and was considering opening more valves, according to the company.

==Kyodo

Why don't you stay in your own thread and scream "EVERYTHING IS FINE" as much as you want?

You're not impressing anyone by insulting people who are concerned with what's happening.

It seems like the supposedly H-bomb proof container has been breached, then? What's up with that?

there are still explosions happening. doesnt sound like its under control to me. "under control" and "explosions" do not usually go hand in hand.

it wasn't actually "h-bomb proof" which anyone with common sense would be able to figure out

it's made out of concrete not unobtainium

Yeah, after the explosion the pressure dropped from 3 AU to 1 AU.

That and the apologizing TEPCO did at the news conference, TEPCO now admitting a meltdown is possible, TEPCO mentioning that there may be a breach and radiation may be leaking and TEPCO evacuating all but around 50 of their staff suggests things are not going well.

So if, in fact, the container is leaking to the point where a) the fuel rods cannot be covered with seawater and b) radiation can be detected in higher-than-in-vent-gas concentrations throughout the facility, we can conclude that approximately 5 or so contingencies (cooling pumps, backup pumps, battery pumps, seawater, containment) all have failed?

Crazy.

The actual nuclear reaction has stopped, correct? Right now they're just dealing with residual heat? This is what I'm getting from everything.

The explosion yesterday at #3 reactor damaged the pumps at #2 reactor and it went to **** from there.