This destruction is a net loss to the Japanese economy. Only a politician could sell it to a gullible public as a boom.

Any new jobs created are not a boom but a scramble to fix that which was not broken before. ie extra work.

If what you pertain were logical then the U.S.A. would benefit if the government introduced a bulldozing program and started to level several towns and cities in order to boost the economy and create jobs.




Is it any wonder people keep voting themselves into debt and enslavement?

Print some money, put people to work, worry about the exploding debt later.

only ecoloons complain about that anymore

politically it's bull****

the government always has, and always will, support nuclear power

unless the mafia gets their fingers in the pie (shoreham)

nuclear power is UNSAFE

we should go back to COAL

it's BETTER

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/photo/20110313-817987-1-L.jpg

An explosion at an earthquake-damaged nuclear plant was not caused by damage to the nuclear reactor but by a pumping system that failed as crews tried to bring the reactor's temperature down, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Saturday.

The next step for workers at the Fukushima Daiichi plant will be to flood the reactor containment structure with sea water to bring the reactor's temperature down to safe levels, he said. The effort is expected to take two days.

Sounds like everything is under control :shrug:

yeah I think the worst is over as far as the nuclear situation. They will probably never be able to use that reactor again though.

It sounds like they may have had a partial meltdown yesterday when part of the rod became exposed due to evaporation but they used a fire truck to refill the reactor.

I'm not sure what caused the explosion, maybe it was a hydrogen explosion of some kind in a pump or something.

I believe the correct term is Moonbat.

So here's a dumb question.

They said that the reason the cooling pumps failed was because the power to the plant was lost.
The diesel generators failed because of the tsunami.
and the battery backup's didn't last long enough, or something.

Isn't it a power generation facility? Can't they generate their own electricity to operate the pumps?
They still had a ****load of steam, couldn't they use that to power the turbines and generate electricity for themselves?

That's ****ing annoying, it'll take LGBR even longer to fly there now to be a bartender.

yes that is a dumb question

They certainly could design a power plant to operate like that, but I don't think most powerplants are designed like that. Keep in mind, you not only have to generate it, but transform it. A power plant is going to be generating at the most efficient voltage and frequency, which might not be the best for transmitting. And neither of those are going to be the kind power the coolant pumps require. Triple redundancy is usually enough.

And unfortunately, screaming idiots get attention.

Good thing there are non-Japanese insurance companies to absorb some of the loss.

They shut down the reactors automatically during an earthquake.

Yes, I realize that.
But they are still very hot and generating steam.

:shrug: I'm sure there is a very good reason

It's probably super dangerous given how many nuts and bolts could have been knocked loose at some stage of the process. Nuke plants have to be really careful.

I know you are being facetious but most people are not aware that fly ash from coal burning is far more radioactive/dangerous to the environment than nuclear waste :(



The damage there is just to the outer shell which is simply there to protect the containment vessel from the elements. Said vessel is designed to handle anything short of a direct hit from a nuclear bomb.

They pull energy from the grid and when there is a loss of offsite power they go into automatic shutdown. When the reactor shuts down the turbine used to create power is completely bypassed. The fuel inside the reactor is still creating tremendous amounts of heat though (decay heat) so it is necessary for cooling to continue. Since the plant is no longer generating its own power batteries/generators are needed.

Under ideal circumstances steam builds up and is dumped into the condenser. This water is cooled and pumped back into the reactor to continue the proccess. However, the generators were damaged by the tsunami which meant the systems were not turning that steam back into coolant and pressure started building (this is what everyone was freaking out over) and needed to be vented.


It's not safe to try to harness decay heat to continue to power the plant. They were actually trying to do exactly that when the Chernobyl incident took place (chernobly/fukushima are way different designs though):

Another dumb question: so I assume they are working on the leaking plant from.....the leaking plant. Are all the workers going to die early now?

Probably, but Japan hasn't perfected their super robots yet so someone has to do it.

and here i was thinking that 2011 was going to be another boring start for a decade.

p.s : the google ads are offering "Japanese used bike Used bike exporter from Japan wholesale prices for importers." anyone interested ?

Not sure if this has been posted yet, its an example of Japans early warning system. Apparently this graphic flashed up on every television that was turned on (and has an antenna) and stays on the screen. So people had at least a minutes warning before anything happened, I dunno about you but in a minute you can get somewhat safe except in tall buildings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp-39kqACo4

No.

Nobody is going into the outer containment vessel (the building with several foot thick steel and concrete walls/floor) without proper protection. Chernobyl did not have such a building surrounding the reactor which is what allowed the contamination into the atmosphere/immediate vicinity when the reactor blew.

They had to make a makeshift version (dubbed the 'sarcophagus') in the months that followed to entomb the place.

These things are designed to be hit by earthquakes, hurricanes, airplanes. Anything short of a nuclear bomb will not breach them. In the case of a complete meltdown not even the molten core can burn through the bottom of such a building.

I'm sure the iodine will save them.

It will actually do quite a bit. Iodine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heh it doesn't sound good when they are doing a "hail mary" pass at trying to cool the reactor.

Wow. That's a really good thing to have but I can imagine how it could freak people out when you're just relaxing and watching some parliamentary debate going down and all of a sudden you get notified of imminent doom seconds before it strikes then pow you're dead.

Multiple reactors lose cooling.......

W-O-W

i was eating sushi today and some nutjob comes in talking about the end of the world in 2012 and how this is an early warning or some ****

he's telling this to a bunch of japanese people btw


anyway, i guess some expert was saying that it wouldn't be like a chernobyl because it was enclosed or something

i dunno i was playing guitar so i zoned out

tokyo drift

....silently, in the shadows....

http://caledoniawakeupcall.files.wor...m-jong-il1.jpg

So, I'm assuming they are going to dump salt water in this one too?

"All the functions to keep cooling water levels in No. 3 reactor have failed at the Fukushima No. 1 plant," a spokesman for the operator said.

well this is kind of like sim city. I never built nuclear power plants because f'ing earthquakes would blam me all the time.

Wolf Blitzer is getting hard from the idea of a possible meltdown.

NHK has a news conference online now.

Water injection system crapped out on #3. They need to get the power source back up.

They tried to reconnect a power source but it didn't go well, so they stopped, now they are trying it again.

They are using the fire extinguishing system as a coolant or something but they are still trying to get the cooling system up but they don't know if it is or not.

Guys, LGBR said they'd be fine so stop posting things that contradict him, okay?

let it go

Gordon Freeman needs to go back to the nuclear reactions and restart the cooling system in order for more citizens to get away from city 17 errr fukushima

You do have to wonder of the wisdom of putting 6 nuclear reactors on a tsunami beach in one of the most active areas on the face of the Earth.