How is it me making a logical argument. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your "logical" argument.
pretty sure I already said I understood the aspect of people that live and/or work in the "riot zone" although you said it wasn't a riot.
Regardless I wonder what small percentage of people were caught in the crossfire due to not having enough food or toilet paper in the house to last a day and a half?
How is that for logical. Am I doing this right?
I have no idea what happened at G20, nor do I particularly care. I'm not even sure if the people you guys are discussing are protesters or just regular people who live and work there.
If it was all protesters, then this is a pretty big fuss about nothing. They accepted that risk when they decided to be there. But, Obi's still naive if he thinks bystanders can't get caught up in this kind of things by chance.
His fantasies of people going out during full blown riots are just ridiculous. City blocks during these things are usually pretty quiet and normal except for the ones a rally is currently marching through. People living and working there wouldn't have any idea what routes a march would be taking, so to expect an entire city to just shut down for the duration is just hopelessly naive. Boston shut down for ONE day during the marathon bombing and that cost businesses an estimated $300+ million.
I spent a day and night in jail for the one I was at years ago, but I was at least there by choice. The people who were walking in front of us when we turned onto their street were not. They basically had no chance to react before the police also turned into the street from the other end and blockaded it off. I watched as they were herded in with us under protest. Saw some people being denied medication (I think insulin for diabetes) later that night. Felt ashamed for getting them into that.
I suppose the cops could have taken the time to clear the street ahead of time, since it felt pre-planned and they were the ones herding us during the whole thing. But but they didn't, nor did they particularly seem to care who they rounded up.
This was peaceful, no property damage was to be allowed and we self policed. Even had a permit to be doing what we were doing, but that didn't matter in the end as we were charged with "parading without a permit," this, after they tried and failed to come up with something better. None of it stuck of course, they knew they had no case.
The saddest part (and hilarious in retrospect) of this whole thing was the way the police got on the bullhorn after boxing us in on both ends of the block and yelled for us to disperse or be arrested. Of course they didn't actually let anyone who tried to do that to leave.