Things aren't going to get magically better while people sit on the sidelines as euro-snobs.
If you want to get the standard of the league improved, then you need to actually do something to help improve it. The fewer people watching, the less impetus there is to attempt to improve because the available market is viewed to be much smaller.
O Hi Guyz. How bout that Serie A?
It's currently on a down cycle...
I will also have media passes and be in the locker room and on the field.
Anyone else going out to that game?
I will also have media passes and be in the locker room and on the field.
Anyone else going out to that game?
also, as far as I'm concerned; canada can take what we grant them from our league structure or they can fuck off and build their own league.
We've got enough trouble trying to fit in enough of the American teams vying for a MLS spot without Canada trying to bird dog all the remaining slots.
It's completely silly to think that an entire region of the country will be locked out of the top level of the American league because a bunch of canadian teams can't put together their own league.
They also benefited from some very savvy marketing by the ownership and the fact that the Sonics got shipped off to OKC and the metro area was left with just the Seahawks and Mariners.
Hah such ignorance. How could you possibly look at a city like St Louis and try to consider it before a city like Toronto? Attitudes like this are what hamper the MLS; you need to get over it being a purely "American" league and make it a "North American" league like every other league in North America.
Toronto isn't in 2nd place and Seattle didn't 'implement a similar style'.People bitched and moaned about Toronto getting a team (and still do) and they are the most profitable and popular team in MLS's history, and are also in 2nd place right now. The entire reason Seattle is so successful is because of their FO's understanding and observation of Toronto and implementing a similar style.
Montreal and Vancouver are awesome teams. They regularly and routinely rape and pillage their American counterparts and their Voyageur Cup showings prove that they are MLS contenders. Plus they have huge pre-existing markets and fanbases, and very shortly both will have large Soccer Specific Stadiums available to them.
Honestly, who the fuck wants a second-tier, second-rate team that doesn't have the resources simply because it is American? That is retarded; get with the times.
Hah such ignorance. How could you possibly look at a city like St Louis and try to consider it before a city like Toronto? Attitudes like this are what hamper the MLS; you need to get over it being a purely "American" league and make it a "North American" league like every other league in North America.
People bitched and moaned about Toronto getting a team (and still do) and they are the most profitable and popular team in MLS's history, and are also in 2nd place right now. The entire reason Seattle is so successful is because of their FO's understanding and observation of Toronto and implementing a similar style.
Montreal and Vancouver are awesome teams. They regularly and routinely rape and pillage their American counterparts and their Voyageur Cup showings prove that they are MLS contenders. Plus they have huge pre-existing markets and fanbases, and very shortly both will have large Soccer Specific Stadiums available to them.
Honestly, who the fuck wants a second-tier, second-rate team that doesn't have the resources simply because it is American? That is retarded; get with the times.
Agreed. Stop giving teams to places just because you want to reach that geographical part of the US or you want some form of Canada/US balance. The next 3 places to bring a team are complete no brainers: Montreal, Vancouver, and Portland. All of them have really strong fan bases that will pack the stadiums and we'd get the extra drama of a Northwest 3-way rivalry. The most fun I've had at soccer matches was watching the Portland Timbers play. Best fans ever.
'every other sports league' in the US you mean.
I don't see Mexico, Costa Rica, or any other soccer league system in North America doing this.
As for it being a purely American league, unlike every other sport with professional leagues in the US, there's a higher authority imposing regulations on the league structure. One of those regulations makes it extremely highly unlikely we will be allowed to pass 20 teams whereas other leagues are able to easily expand to 32 or more teams.
At the end of the day, this is an American league according to FIFA and that's all that matters. Therefore, when it comes push-to-shove - Canada is allowed to have it's own league, I'd rather see American cities get a chance than stifle American growth in the sport because Canada can't get it's act together and put together a decent league.
Toronto isn't in 2nd place and Seattle didn't 'implement a similar style'.
Vancouver's 'pre-existing market and fanbase' is no larger than the average USL market or fanbase.
As for second-tier, second-rate team... that's been a generous description of Toronto FC the last two years.
There is still a fairly good chance they don't make the playoffs this year either despite MLS' very generous playoff system.
They are 3rd out of 7 in their division because of the number of games they've played:
Chicago is 2 points off with two games in hand
KC is 3 points off with two games in hand
NE Revs are 6 points off with four games in hand
Additionally, teams on the other division can nab one or both wild card spots:
RSL is 3 points off with a game in hand (much better gd)
LAG are 4 points off with a game in hand
That is to say that Toronto still could easily finish 13th out of 15 and
RE: resources, teams are run on a tight salary cap so resources don't really matter