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Net Neutrality: Attorney Generals from 22 states appeal FCC's repeal

Submitted by: Amadeus @ 01:17 PM | Wednesday, January 17, 2018 | (url: https://www.youtu...)

Leonard French, your facourite copyright attorney, explains all the juicy legal details.

Basically, their argument is that the FCC is part of the administrative branch and as such doesn't get to just make new shit up, that's what Congress is for.


01-18-18 - 12:41 PM
When have I ever said that

Ur the guy who has continually demonstrated he has no idea what net neutrality is and bitches about using a search engine when there are tons out there that will give u what u want
01-18-18 - 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Fool  
It's not a shift in attitude, it's pointing out facts. This is simply two sets of billionaire corporations arguing over who gets more money. No matter which side "wins" you will not see a reduction in your costs as a consumer. They use a term like "neutrality" so you think of something as balanced and fair, yet you've probably only had a single ISP choice your entire life, pay for a certain bandwidth tier, and have had access to the internet throttled or denied thousands of times without ever realizing it.

And some people get away with murder, should we repeal the laws against that too?

Also, exactly which billionaire corporations stand to gain from the presence of net neutrality?
01-18-18 - 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Ztir  
When have I ever said that

Ur the guy who has continually demonstrated he has no idea what net neutrality is and bitches about using a search engine when there are tons out there that will give u what u want


i've consistently demonstrated, over and over i might add, that i DO know what net neutrality is, and again, I didn't say that this had anything to do with net neutrality, so once again, you're putting words in my mouth.

fuck u
01-18-18 - 12:46 PM
Originally posted by aScotiA  
Six months ago TW was basically 100% in favor of net neutrality. Now that the Trump admin has espoused the idea of repealing it, everyone is like "wait no, net neutrality is stupid and two sides of the same coin." Is that how we form opinions now? If my party says it's cool then I must like it also?

What exactly is wrong with the status quo? Suppose it really is "right twix, left twix." If right twix is damn good then what is the point of upsetting the balance that has naturally evolved concurrantly with the evolution of technology? Why should we cede even more power and control to the telecom monopolies who everyone already unanimously hates?

If disparate/unfair bandwidth usage between respective corporations is the root of the problem, aren't there other ways to legislate a solution which isn't so implicitly detrimental to consumers?

That's all, just surprised by the shift in TW's attitude.
yeah...i used to be very alone on this subject and while im sure you're correct some of it is partisan bandwagoning, some of it is though people coming to terms with the 2015 legislation and it not being effective.
01-18-18 - 12:47 PM
Sorry u can easily see my confusion then since you bring both treating all network traffic the same and what content private entities allow on their services in every single post u make about the subject as if they are in any way linked
01-18-18 - 12:49 PM
yes, i do post about both issues in threads that might be titled net neutrality. i'm sorry you're so confused.

also, you do realize that if you use android phones or google assistant type things, it automatically uses google, and you cannot change it to use duck duck go, right?
01-18-18 - 12:49 PM
I dont understand why this always turns into a partisan issue. I dont know which side to believe. If Spectrum starts charging Netflix more, Netflix will charge me more. If Spectrum isnt allowed to just charge Netflix more, they will charge me and Netflix more. Which scenario involves me getting the better service at the cheaper price. That is the one I would support but none of these threads ever get to that.
01-18-18 - 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Ztir  
Sorry u can easily see my confusion then since you bring both treating all network traffic the same and what content private entities allow on their services in every single post u make about the subject as if they are in any way linked
so what you're saying is that you see no link between what "content private entities allow on their services" and what "ISP private entities allow on their services"?
01-18-18 - 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Amadeus  


Also, exactly which billionaire corporations stand to gain from the presence of net neutrality?


All the ones in favor of it, I assume.
01-18-18 - 12:52 PM
Originally posted by NightTrain  
I dont understand why this always turns into a partisan issue. I dont know which side to believe. If Spectrum starts charging Netflix more, Netflix will charge me more. If Spectrum isnt allowed to just charge Netflix more, they will charge me and Netflix more. Which scenario involves me getting the better service at the cheaper price. That is the one I would support but none of these threads ever get to that.

Um.

With net neutrality in place, Spectrum would not be in a position to charge Netflix for anything.
01-18-18 - 12:53 PM
amadeus too busy watching cartoons for young girls to have heard of corporations like "facebook" and "google"
01-18-18 - 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Pagy  
amadeus too busy watching cartoons for young girls to have heard of corporations like "facebook" and "google"
Nah, those corps support net neutrality for the GOOD OF THE PEOPLE, bro.
01-18-18 - 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Pagy  
so what you're saying is that you see no link between what "content private entities allow on their services" and what "ISP private entities allow on their services"?

Depends on what you view isps as - is an internet connection a utility like power or is it a right to access your isps content

To be fair itís still up for debate. Considering how integrated our society is with the internet now, Iíd tend to classify it like a power company more than a content provider
01-18-18 - 12:55 PM
Originally posted by havax  
yes, i do post about both issues in threads that might be titled net neutrality. i'm sorry you're so confused.

also, you do realize that if you use android phones or google assistant type things, it automatically uses google, and you cannot change it to use duck duck go, right?


Donít use an android phone???????
01-18-18 - 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Ztir  
Donít use an android phone???????
Hang on a second. You were just saying internet access is so entrenched in society so it should almost be a public utility? But you won't apply that same logic to the foothold Apple and Google have on the gateway that people use to access that internet?
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