My druid with under 24 hours /played at 80 went from 2.8-5.6k gs with 2 gdkp raids and maybe 4k gold (only played the alt for 4 bosses that have rotting loot it could use, 3 of which put out) and daily heroics. In BC and TBC you could bring a shit-geared alt to maybe Karazhan but it still took awhile to gear up. It's retarded how badly the game has been dumbed down, you can carry 5 or more people in 25man raids now without slowing down too much.This shit is slowly becomming the 30% nerf toward the end of BC. ICC is turning into a joke every few weeks... atleast for korgath server.