Ginger Jew news: World of Warcraft microtransactions
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1teaminlondon
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did happy really call the making/programming of wow and dota "art"
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If you think that WoW as a whole has no artistic value whatsoever then there's something wrong with you.
ya game programmers/coders are in a really weird fucking position re: 'art'
there are definitely creatives involved, and I'd even suggest that all coders have the potential to be artists if given the chance, but the sheer grinding stalinist corporatism that goes on in those big companies with 'crunch month' etc is just sadface
free urselves, creatives, the only things u stand 2 lose r ur chains
there are definitely creatives involved, and I'd even suggest that all coders have the potential to be artists if given the chance, but the sheer grinding stalinist corporatism that goes on in those big companies with 'crunch month' etc is just sadface
free urselves, creatives, the only things u stand 2 lose r ur chains
1teaminlondon
Veteran X
still a bad analogy happy
we throw top dollar at top athletes, and we expect top results. sure things don't always end up how you planned, but the logic/reasoning behind the initial investment is sound
throw money at artists/programmers and you should expect the type of results you pay for. logically the ones you choose to pay the most are at the top of their field which means they have demonstrated a high level of work
idk wat ur tryin to say really, but if its
then idk what else ur supposed to do. randomly select people? listen to a million ideas and find a needle in the haystack? Why spend thousands of hours immersing yourself/educating yourself about a subject when you can theoretically buy 10 experts in the field with 1000x more hours than you will ever have.
im just going to assume that you don't know how the "quote" button works and thats why your post was nonsensical
we throw top dollar at top athletes, and we expect top results. sure things don't always end up how you planned, but the logic/reasoning behind the initial investment is sound
throw money at artists/programmers and you should expect the type of results you pay for. logically the ones you choose to pay the most are at the top of their field which means they have demonstrated a high level of work
idk wat ur tryin to say really, but if its
then idk what else ur supposed to do. randomly select people? listen to a million ideas and find a needle in the haystack? Why spend thousands of hours immersing yourself/educating yourself about a subject when you can theoretically buy 10 experts in the field with 1000x more hours than you will ever have.
im just going to assume that you don't know how the "quote" button works and thats why your post was nonsensical
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that statement is very true.
lol reminds me a lot of wow because of all the casual players loving it because it's really easy to pickup and not hard to master.
6 more months and dota gonna have more players, the streams will have more viewers etc.
and the discussion about "throwing money at devs" shocks me, happy you should know that developer have NO influence of how stuff is supposed to look/work. You should always throw money at devs but you should start throwing money at game designers/project planners as well (and get rid of useless people).
HaPpY
Veteran XX
im talking about the whole game dev team not just the programmers... duh
the whole process is (should be) an art... but ceases to be if you stamp out the passion/creativity/motivation component through corporatist practices. the result then will be another AAA clone with the rest of $ spent on marketing and bribing sites like gamespot to force your shit game onto the gullible masses.
cliffs: indie gaming ftw
the whole process is (should be) an art... but ceases to be if you stamp out the passion/creativity/motivation component through corporatist practices. the result then will be another AAA clone with the rest of $ spent on marketing and bribing sites like gamespot to force your shit game onto the gullible masses.
cliffs: indie gaming ftw
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1teaminlondon
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without corporate greed & its dominance, the vidya gaming industry would be something like...i duno the board game industry or ccg/magic the gathering
its too easy to point out the flaws & whats wrong with corporate greed/culture...but to say they're pure evil and artists are beautiful unicorns that create the best games is dumb
you cant have the games we have today without corporate greed. its like commercials and anything worthwhile on tv. they're necessary evils to generate the huge sums of money that push/drag the industry forward
its too easy to point out the flaws & whats wrong with corporate greed/culture...but to say they're pure evil and artists are beautiful unicorns that create the best games is dumb
you cant have the games we have today without corporate greed. its like commercials and anything worthwhile on tv. they're necessary evils to generate the huge sums of money that push/drag the industry forward
HaPpY
Veteran XX
with sports its 1000x simpler than this... but even then if you take the top players and give them the worst coach/management they probably wont do as well.
examples of top hired game talent resulting in total fail:
- red5/firefall
- 38 studios
- garagegames+westwood designers
- every former blizzard employee venture attempted
- simcity 5... thanks EA!
all corporatism does is bring in capital to work with, big $$$
i agree that creating quality games requires patience, creativity, and skills
corporations tend to kill the first two, but at least these new games are being designed by people very familiar with coding languages...
you can't really just buy good creative talent. kinda why blizzard breaking up their all-star dev team post-diablo 2 was so bad for their fanbase.
i agree that creating quality games requires patience, creativity, and skills
corporations tend to kill the first two, but at least these new games are being designed by people very familiar with coding languages...
you can't really just buy good creative talent. kinda why blizzard breaking up their all-star dev team post-diablo 2 was so bad for their fanbase.
Nobody's saying corporate culture is evil, it's just detrimental to creativity.
Businessmen like to plan ahead, and you can't plan fun on paper. If the corporate bigwigs aren't comfortable with the idea of developers experimenting with their game as they go in order to improve the fun factor, then they're gonna end up snuffing out creativity and ultimately produce a worse product.
Atreides
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Has Blizzard ever stated how many NA or even EU subscribers they still have? I know they posted a while back that they had 8 or 9 million worldwide, but asia doesn't pay a monthly fee. They pay by the hour, and I'm guessing Blizz counts anyone in asia who paid within the last month as a "subscriber"
Considering how dead a lot of the NA servers were just a month after MoP, I'd be shocked if WoW had more than 2 million subscribers in NA. If anyone was under the impression that Blizzard currently rakes in $15x8million/Month, you are grossly mistaken.