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41 - 02-01-2018, 07:38 AM
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When will Elon REVEAL to us, when a red roadster is going to the Moon?
 
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Zuma wasn't a falcon 9 failure. If SpaceX had a mission failure you would know about it despite the classified status because they wouldn't launch anything else for at least 6mo while they go through their various procedures and investigations for a mission failure of that nature. They launched GovSat-1 today.
then whose failure was it?

you seem to follow this stuff pretty well imo

Billion-dollar spy satellite lost in failed SpaceX mission / Boing Boing

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A secret American spy satellite code-named Zuma didn't reach orbit in Sunday's failed SpaceX rocket launch. The cost of the missing U.S. government asset, which officially doesn't exist and officially hasn't been lost, is estimated to be in the billions of dollars.
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Lawmakers and congressional staffers from the Senate and the House have been briefed about the botched mission, some of the officials said. The secret payload***8212;code-named Zuma and launched from Florida on board a Falcon 9 rocket***8212;is believed to have plummeted back into the atmosphere, they said, because it didn***8217;t separate as planned from the upper part of the rocket.
do you know why they will still use falcon 9's despite this?

because what other choice and options do they really have at this point.

i mean are we going to ask china and russia to send our payloads up for us?

our early Apollo issues didn't slow down the rest of the Apollo program either
 
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then whose failure was it?
All signs point to Northrop Grumman. Either the sat was DOA after decoupling, or it failed to decouple at all.

The Air Force didn't change the F9's certification status after the flight, which again points towards it not being a rocket issue.

That article is based on a WSJ article that the people "in the know" have discredited. This happens often because your average news reporter isn't a rocket scientist. It's not malice, just ignorance.

-SpaceX says everything went fine on their end, and they can't lie about it or NG would raise hell

-Instead NG is radio silent on the mission

-Observations were made of the second stage venting fuel - that's a sign it completed its job - being in the correct orbit.

 
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because what other choice and options do they really have at this point.
ULA. Ever hear of the delta IV/atlas V?

We know what happens after an actual spacex failure - Amos 6 or CRS 7. Total halt of the manifest for months.
 
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If you need a financial adviser, you shouldn't be shorting stocks.
 
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All signs point to Northrop Grumman. Either the sat was DOA after decoupling, or it failed to decouple at all.

The Air Force didn't change the F9's certification status after the flight, which again points towards it not being a rocket issue.



That article is based on a WSJ article that the people "in the know" have discredited. This happens often because your average news reporter isn't a rocket scientist. It's not malice, just ignorance.

-SpaceX says everything went fine on their end, and they can't lie about it or NG would raise hell

-Instead NG is radio silent on the mission

-Observations were made of the second stage venting fuel - that's a sign it completed its job - being in the correct orbit.

very interesting.....

thank you for post and updates

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US lawmakers have reportedly been briefed about the loss of the spacecraft[4] and an unnamed government official said that it had re-entered the atmosphere over the Indian Ocean,[6][13] possibly due to a failure in the payload adapter provided by Northrop Grumman.[4][14] Due to the classified nature of the mission, detailed information on the satellite and its fate may not be publicly released.[15] Officially, NORAD still lists the satellite but with no orbital parameters and the orbital status code "no elements available", which is standard procedure for classified missions.[16][17]

Gwynne Shotwell, President and COO of SpaceX, made the following statement:

For clarity: after review of all data to date, Falcon 9 did everything correctly on Sunday night. If we or others find otherwise based on further review, we will report it immediately. Information published that is contrary to this statement is categorically false. Due to the classified nature of the payload, no further comment is possible. Since the data reviewed so far indicates that no design, operational or other changes are needed, we do not anticipate any impact on the upcoming launch schedule.[18]

Lon Rains, Communications Director of Northrop Grumman, made the following statement:

This is a classified mission. We cannot comment on classified missions.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuma_(satellite)

no real way for me to argue with you since they will not really disclose much more than this........

i love how our government can pretty much blow a billion dollars and still don't feel like a larger explanation is needed or warranted to the taxpayers.

This goes well with the theme that we actually work for our government and our government no longer works for us........
 
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ULA. Ever hear of the delta IV/atlas V?

We know what happens after an actual spacex failure - Amos 6 or CRS 7. Total halt of the manifest for months.
good points

i meant that in more of a rhetorical way.....should have chosen my wording better

i mean if the F-35 ends up being a turd (which it is) it doesn't matter....because they already invested so much into it they have to make it work. Their procurement eggs and contracts are already in that basket. They have no other viable choices.

Sure there is still the F-22, there are other jets, there is even the X-32 from Boeing........but that isn't the choice or the direction that was chosen.

These aeronautical contractors know this and pretty much create delays, overhead costs, overruns, based off of how much they can get away with before they break contracts and/or re-evaluation is made to what they are offering

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The Atlas V historically was not cost-competitive for most commercial launches, where launch costs were about $100 million per satellite to GTO in 2013.[39] The price drop from approximately $180 million to $109 million has been in large part due to competitive pressure that emerged in the launch services marketplace during the early 2010s, with Bruno stating that ULA needs at least 2 commercial missions each year in order to stay profitable.[40] Still, the company is not attempting to win these missions on purely lowest purchase price, stating that it "would rather be the best value provider."[41] ULA suggests that customers will have much lower insurance and delay costs because of the high Atlas V reliability and schedule certainty, making overall customer costs close to that of using competitors like the SpaceX Falcon 9.[42]
It sure looks like we have a competitive bid process.......but in the end we always know who is going to end up getting what long before the proposal is often even made.

AND Largely all by design at this point......
 
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I wiish Pagy and HK the Jew would post here, all of us would benefit


In todays Globe and Mail is an article about Elon's flamethrower and how it should be regulated.

Reading between the lines we see free advertising and a push to drive sales by acting now, or before regulation is implemented.

#teslainthenews

It is good to be in the tribe.
 
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the flamethrower is totally sold out so I doubt it's a secret jew marketing campaign

maybe next time
 
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wat

isn't a sell out the objective of a secret jew marketing campaign?
 
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i love how our government can pretty much blow a billion dollars and still don't feel like a larger explanation is needed or warranted to the taxpayers.

This goes well with the theme that we actually work for our government and our government no longer works for us........
there's this thing called insurance btw, u may have heard of it
 
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hahaahhaha

thank u goshin

i forgot that things don't cost money if we can take the money from somewhere else

america is still super rich with the insurance of never repaying our debts and bonds
 
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i forgot that things don't cost money if we can take the money from somewhere else
premiums, right? that's the whole concept of insurance.
 
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they don't cost anything

we just fire money into space

and get rich with the insurance money that falls back down

i guess it was enough to make triple rich

keep goshin employed

maybe this is the great new horizon

musk should sell insurance policies instead
 
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~make goshin potty trained again~

buy insurance today
 
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Btw that whole sheetrock thing was just a joke guys

Lmfao
 
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the flamethrower is totally sold out so I doubt it's a secret jew marketing campaign

maybe next time
It's a pr stunt to maintain a pump and dump campaign for Tesla stock, imo.

BTW impressive knowledge about the racketeering protocols. +rep'd.

Very impressive.
 
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Btw that whole sheetrock thing was just a joke guys

Lmfao
Edgy sig brophus. So original. So angst.

I'm just surprised you keep posting, what with the self ownage of your last thread. Summated as:


But you're too low life to be Shameless and that's why your still here once in a while.
 
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Slow tony misusing multisyllable words yet again

Stick to ur tradie work, homie
 
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I remember a time i had a mega space thread that no one replied to

If only i still cared to inform you morons
Then teles dumb question about the spy sat wouldn't have been

Oh well **** you!
 
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