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641 - 10-02-2017, 07:43 PM
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"There was a more rapid decline in firearm deaths between 1997 and 2013 compared with before 1997 but also a decline in total nonfirearm suicide and homicide deaths of a greater magnitude. Because of this, it is not possible to determine whether the change in firearm deaths can be attributed to the gun law reforms."

Love using someone's own link against them.

Oh, and "death" != "murder"
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Isn't the US homicide rate at or near its all time low?

I guess that's evidence that more guns equals less killing!
 
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a total halt to mass shootings and a statistically significant accelerated decline in firearm related suicides along with a decline in firearm related homicides, i can live with that
 
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Gun Law Reforms and Firearm Deaths in Australia | Firearms | JAMA | The JAMA Network

don't worry tho i know ur not really looking for an answer
But these things always are bull****.

They look at FIREARM deaths after removing FIREARMS. WHAT???? you mean after you ban firearms firearm deaths go down? Shocking. I bet if you ban cars automobile deaths will go down as well

But how about crime/murder overall, In general, no.
 
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Isn't the US homicide rate at or near its all time low?

I guess that's evidence that more guns equals less killing!
Like a fifty-year-low, I think, while the number of firearms owned has doubled at least a couple of times in that period.
 
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But these things always are bull****.

They look at FIREARM deaths after removing FIREARMS. WHAT???? you mean after you ban firearms firearm deaths go down? Shocking. I bet if you ban carts automobile deaths will go down as well

But how about crime/murder overall, In general, no.
Tl:;dr

Removing firearms reduces firearm related deaths?

I think ur gonna have a crowd of angry ppl telling u that ur wrong for pointing out common sense here
 
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Tl:;dr

Removing firearms reduces firearm related deaths?

I think ur gonna have a crowd of angry ppl telling u that ur wrong for pointing out common sense here
Only an idiot would disagree.


A smart person will bring up the fact that Australia never had a gun culture or enough firearms for every man woman and child in the country......and thus, a completely irrelevant comparison.
 
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Only an idiot would disagree.
Well, this is tribalwar
 
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they're just trying to dissemble while pretending to be reasonable
 
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The question is whether different gun laws would even have an impact on the overall availability of firearms, and if they did, would it be a statistically significant one.

Banning "assault rifles" would undoubtedly piss off millions of law abiding Americans and very likely only result in a couple dozen saved lives, if that.

It should make you wonder what the Democrats have as true motives when they constantly push for scary rifle bans, knowing full well that handguns are used to kill 50x more Americans.
 
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I bet this dude did a lot of cocaine.
 
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Well, he was a degenerate gambler.
 
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did he lose big or something?

why he did what he do?
 
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old white guy mows down other white people

and were here talking about ******s

hehe
Was rich too. Really flawed programming in the Matrix. It's like these people come down to earth, live a normal life, then decide to leave behind a memory by killing others, then commit suicide when the cops show up.
 
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they're just trying to dissemble while pretending to be reasonable
You're presenting a study as if it proves something it specifically says it does not.
 
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but the FEELS
 
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You're presenting a study as if it proves something it specifically says it does not.
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a total halt to mass shootings and a statistically significant accelerated decline in firearm related suicides along with a decline in firearm related homicides, i can live with that
 
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S.49 - 99th Congress (1985-1986): Firearms Owners' Protection Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
 
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Regardless of your stance pro-gun nut or anti-gun nut. You will never make the world psycho proof. When someone has this kind of will to kill as many as they can, they will find a way. Legislation will not make us safe in the grand scheme of things. You going to outlaw cars too.

Of course the whack jobs will jump all over these type things saying see, see guns are bad or see, see, if someone was armed they could of prevented this.
 
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