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American gun owners, ask a Canadian what "sensible" gun regulation inevitably leads to.

Don't give them an inch.
We won't. They don't want to compromise. They've proven that total confiscation is their end game, and compromise only lets them inch ever-closer to that goal. So instead this year we set about undoing some of the past "compromises" like Obama's illegal executive orders. And now we're moving on to the de-regulation of suppressors and national concealed carry reciprocity. We have the votes so now is the time. I think we're making pretty good progress on all fronts.

Edit: We've also had some significant victories in the courts lately. It helps when SCOTUS actually sticks to the Constitution.

To the gun grabbers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc7jblpaPdM
 
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American gun owners, ask a Canadian what "sensible" gun regulation inevitably leads to.

Don't give them an inch.
people say they don't believe in slippery slopes

but you give them a few confederate statues they go for founding fathers (now)

they will not stop until they get Mount Rushmore......this isn't hyperbole but their own words online

Its Time To Blow Up Mount Rushmore | The Daily Caller

you give them a little hate speech laws.......and they don't stop until guy who teaches gf's dog to hitler solute and guy who posts cat picture with a little mustache both get you irl prison time

i mean look at Cali

that is the ultimate slippery slope

they are trying to pass that you can't carry a loaded gun even in rural and remote areas.......soon to make even hunting illegal soon.

it is almost like crazy become emboldened, not satisfied, when you give them a little blood

incrementalism is how history enacts every ****ty idea.....and we are the frog in the pot right now
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-HKN7maetM

here it is boys, finally we got proof that it was a false flag, twitter was right once again
 
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Love this argument from clueless libscum. "You can't revolt against the United States military!!!" It comes up every time there's a gun control thread, without failure.

What you fail to account for is the vast majority of the people in that military are the ones who would side against a tyrannical government. They would be the revolutionaries. Last time I checked, tanks and planes don't drive themselves. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines took an oath to defend The Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. They didn't take any oath to defend a corrupt, illegal government against their families and their own best interests. Support for civilian arms is very high in the military.

But you're such a dumbass you don't even realize the most obvious truth about all this: actual armed revolt isn't even necessary, and it's not the main purpose of the 2A. Merely the potential of armed resistance is enough, in most cases, to keep tyranny at bay. If the basest motive of government is to continuously amass power over the people, then tyranny is inevitable unless the people retain the ultimate reset button: revolution. The existence of an armed, trained, and willing populace is very effective (if imperfect) at moderating government's power.
Like you say it would be decided by different factions within the military. The potential of armed civilian resistance has never stopped any crazy ****er from trying to get control or keeping control of anything if he sways branches of the military.
 
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We won't. They don't want to compromise. They've proven that total confiscation is their end game, and compromise only lets them inch ever-closer to that goal. So instead this year we set about undoing some of the past "compromises" like Obama's illegal executive orders. And now we're moving on to the de-regulation of suppressors and national concealed carry reciprocity. We have the votes so now is the time. I think we're making pretty good progress on all fronts.

Edit: We've also had some significant victories in the courts lately. It helps when SCOTUS actually sticks to the Constitution.
yikes, crazy town
 
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Like you say it would be decided by different factions within the military. The potential of armed civilian resistance has never stopped any crazy ****er from trying to get control or keeping control of anything if he sways branches of the military.
Having served in it, I can say with confidence that such "factions" don't exist in the US military.
 
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Love this argument from clueless libscum. "You can't revolt against the United States military!!!" It comes up every time there's a gun control thread, without failure.

What you fail to account for is the vast majority of the people in that military are the ones who would side against a tyrannical government. They would be the revolutionaries. Last time I checked, tanks and planes don't drive themselves. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines took an oath to defend The Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. They didn't take any oath to defend a corrupt, illegal government against their families and their own best interests. Support for civilian arms is very high in the military.

But you're such a dumbass you don't even realize the most obvious truth about all this: actual armed revolt isn't even necessary, and it's not the main purpose of the 2A. Merely the potential of armed resistance is enough, in most cases, to keep tyranny at bay. If the basest motive of government is to continuously amass power over the people, then tyranny is inevitable unless the people retain the ultimate reset button: revolution. The existence of an armed, trained, and willing populace is very effective (if imperfect) at moderating government's power.
Today on:

Things actual Americans beleive
 
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plz go on data
 
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Suck my dick, cael.
 
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so you actually believe that the military of the united states would kill every last citizen if they were ordered to do so?
 
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do you think if the government goes in a direction that the people disagree with that militias will form up and go to battle?
no, they will protect their **** from further oppression and theft



as they have already done and been doing
 
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Having served in it, I can say with confidence that such "factions" don't exist in the US military.
Of course they dont. Because what really keeps the 'peace' so to speak, much more than an armed populace is western ideas and culture
 
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You just got destroyed.
 
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whether or not this is a gun debate, when things like this happen, is there any part of you that thinks "maybe there's something we can do to prevent things like this from happening; we should look into it"?

or is it just the cost of doing business here?

is there something that could happen that would make you rethink this?
deport all bernie bros and ****lib boomers to south america

other than that i'm not really interested in giving up more of my rights so you guys can cry about Trump between your next killing spree.......be it on Portland subways, baseball games with Senators, or this one at a redneck music festival
 
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need more bundy standoffs, plenty of room left in federal prison for the rest of the bundy family
 
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so you actually believe that the military of the united states would kill every last citizen if they were ordered to do so?
I'm pretty sure enemies of the United States and terrorists would be dealt with

Are you ready to comply, citizen
 
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I just want to know what makes a multimillionaire want to kill as many people as possible at a concert. That doesn't really fit the 'profile' of a 'mass shooter'.
 
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so you actually believe that the military of the united states would kill every last citizen if they were ordered to do so?
this is the same guy who thinks he can abolish private property, redistribute private wealth, without it leading to violent conflict

so of course the rest is pretty much glazed over or excused in the process
 
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so you actually believe that the military of the united states would kill every last citizen if they were ordered to do so?


we all know this would be ztir

if he could lift his own finger to do a days worth of effort for himself

what he says he believes in
 
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