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63121 - 02-23-2018, 21:43
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jfc can u believe (((they))) couldn't leave ben hur alone?
 
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63122 - 02-23-2018, 21:55
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Trump should seek bipartisan support for an Anti-gun violence act, that makes it a crime to glorify murder using guns. Some video games will go (courts have already ruled that a soldier carrying out lawful orders with guns are not considered having committed murder so those can stay), but so must gangsta rap.

Happy to make that trade.
 
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63123 - 02-23-2018, 21:57
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let's not destroy the first in some pathetic attempt to save the second pls kthx bai
 
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63124 - 02-24-2018, 12:59
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Anyone who thinks they need a gun to protect themselves obviously has a mental problem.

I can't believe that door is being swung open.
 
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63125 - 02-24-2018, 13:00
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Trump should seek bipartisan support for an Anti-gun violence act, that makes it a crime to glorify murder using guns. Some video games will go (courts have already ruled that a soldier carrying out lawful orders with guns are not considered having committed murder so those can stay), but so must gangsta rap.

Happy to make that trade.
You are just as bad/maybe worse than those trying to ban guns. Please shut up
 
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You are just as bad/maybe worse than those trying to ban guns. Please shut up
no, I am demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. The left say that guns are the problem (they aren't), but unless we can get them to admit the real issue is the dumb ****s who are evil we cannot make any progress. What makes these nuts so desensitized to gun violence? WHat makes them have such low value of life?

Guns have been around for 200 years. School shootings were not really a thing until Columbine, and for the most part each offender has clearly not been right in the head.

This starts with how these kids were raised.
 
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63127 - 02-24-2018, 13:20
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That is the conversation nobody wants to have it seems.
 
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63128 - 02-24-2018, 13:24
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no, I am demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. The left say that guns are the problem (they aren't), but unless we can get them to admit the real issue is the dumb ****s who are evil we cannot make any progress. What makes these nuts so desensitized to gun violence? WHat makes them have such low value of life?

Guns have been around for 200 years. School shootings were not really a thing until Columbine, and for the most part each offender has clearly not been right in the head.

This starts with how these kids were raised.
If I cant tell you are being sarcastic, neither can people like Belial. Perpetuating these idiotic stereotypes that are nowhere near as prevalent as people seem to think. Such small ****ing portions of our population on each side of the divide have come to represent the whole. Ludicrous.
 
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63129 - 02-24-2018, 13:29
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let's not destroy the first in some pathetic attempt to save the second pls kthx bai
Agreed. And the data is clear.

Guns, violent video games and rock music share the exact same amount of blame for mass shootings.
 
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Edofnor
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63130 - 02-24-2018, 13:34
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543.55537653544599097344% each

fyi
 
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havax
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63131 - 02-24-2018, 13:35
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no, I am demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. The left say that guns are the problem (they aren't), but unless we can get them to admit the real issue is the dumb ****s who are evil we cannot make any progress. What makes these nuts so desensitized to gun violence? WHat makes them have such low value of life?

Guns have been around for 200 years. School shootings were not really a thing until Columbine, and for the most part each offender has clearly not been right in the head.

This starts with how these kids were raised.
Right about the time when schools and colleges went gun-free zone. Things that make you go hmm
 
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Dutch
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63132 - 02-24-2018, 13:37
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uh there is too much money floating around with guns to really get anything done

look at whats going on with ncaa bball, similar

but one is vastly more disgusting
 
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63133 - 02-24-2018, 13:44
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that ncaa **** is the biggest crime in the country today, including ea games and m'dare
 
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Dutch
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63134 - 02-24-2018, 13:48
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our country is flooded with corrupt ****, i dont even want to start about colleges and their money grab

and the fbi is invovled, bend over march madness
 
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clu
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63135 - 02-24-2018, 20:17
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horace and pete season 2

maga
 
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HumDumpin
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63136 - 02-25-2018, 06:28
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWhx97QvxE
Throw Eric Clapton in jail for glorifying gun violence MasterGnr
 
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MasterGnr
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63137 - 02-25-2018, 10:40
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APWhx97QvxE
Throw Eric Clapton in jail for glorifying gun violence MasterGnr
Let's look at the message...

Quote:
"I Shot The Sheriff" (by Bob Marley)

(I shot the sheriff
But I didn't shoot no deputy, oh no! Oh!
I shot the sheriff
But I didn't shoot no deputy, ooh, ooh, oo-ooh.)
Yeah! All around in my home town,
They're tryin' to track me down;
They say they want to bring me in guilty
For the killing of a deputy,
For the life of a deputy.
But I say:

Oh, now, now. Oh!
(I shot the sheriff.) - the sheriff.
(But I swear it was in selfdefence.)
Oh, no! (Ooh, ooh, oo-oh) Yeah!
I say: I shot the sheriff - Oh, Lord! -
(And they say it is a capital offence.)
Yeah! (Ooh, ooh, oo-oh) Yeah!

Sheriff John Brown always hated me,
For what, I don't know:
Every time I plant a seed,
He said kill it before it grow -
He said kill them before they grow.
And so:

Read it in the news:
(I shot the sheriff.) Oh, Lord!
(But I swear it was in self-defence.)
Where was the deputy? (Oo-oo-oh)
I say: I shot the sheriff,
But I swear it was in selfdefence. (Oo-oh) Yeah!

Freedom came my way one day
And I started out of town, yeah!
All of a sudden I saw sheriff John Brown
Aiming to shoot me down,
So I shot - I shot - I shot him down and I say:
If I am guilty I will pay.

(I shot the sheriff,)
But I say (But I didn't shoot no deputy),
I didn't shoot no deputy (oh, no-oh), oh no!
(I shot the sheriff.) I did!
But I didn't shoot no deputy. Oh! (Oo-oo-ooh)

Reflexes had got the better of me
And what is to be must be:
Every day the bucket a-go a well,
One day the bottom a-go drop out,
One day the bottom a-go drop out.
I say:

I - I - I - I shot the sheriff.
Lord, I didn't shot the deputy. Yeah!
I - I (shot the sheriff) -
But I didn't shoot no deputy, yeah! No, yeah!
the point of the song is that the Sheriff was out to get him and he defended himself. He feels badly, and is saying he only shot the Sheriff and if he is guilty he would pay. Another point you miss is that the story is about a man being in a bad position because of a harassing cop. While I think this song promotes gun violence about as much as "Ode to Billie Joe" promotes suicide by bridge jumping, I do see your point that it is a slippery slope. It is all about intent and messaging.

Now compare that to this garbage:

Doe Boy (Freebandz) (WSHH Exclusive - Official Music Video) - YouTube


Gee, what is being glorified there?

If you don't get it, then you are blind and a part of the problem. I do not want anyone taking my guns but I do admit there is a problem...it is society, not me and the other millions of legal gun owners. Address the real issue...assault rifles ain't it.
 
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63138 - 02-25-2018, 11:15
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msteraustim stop
 
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HumDumpin
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63139 - 02-25-2018, 12:12
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Blue lives matter, stop glorifying the slaughter of our boys in blue mustardgnr
 
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Slurp
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63140 - 02-25-2018, 15:40
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So someone tell me what would be wrong with this idea...
The idea: Have DACA immigrants pay for the wall in exchange for citizenship.

Looking over the immigration bill, there are apparently 1.8 million DACA or DACA-like recipients, and Trump wants $25 billion for the wall.
$25B / 1.8M = $14,000

On the surface, it sounds offensive to make them pay for citizenship. But practically speaking $14,000 is nothing. They would easily spend more than that on an immigration lawyer.
By doing this, Mexico is effectively "paying" for the wall since DACA's are mostly Mexican. (Or at least, the US taxpayer doesn't have to pay for it.)

Obviously, not all DACA's are working age. But I'm sure there is a solution for that somewhere.
 
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