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so again, what puts this in a different space than p much all other fps?
 
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the mccree stun is so damn OP
just stay out of range.
once you learn his roll and flashbang ranges he's easy to deal with unless the person is a pretty good shot.

it's a super braindead combo but the opponent has to first be even more braindead to get so close/let you get close.

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so again, what puts this in a different space than p much all other fps?
characters. abilities on cooldown.
i don't know what 'p much all other fps' means to you specifically. it's not like CoD, bfield, tribes, quake, etc.
it's closest to TF2 but without customization and instead having chars with multiple abilities.
to me it's like TF2 meets destiny kinda. the way characters cover different zones is kinda like weapons in destiny and you've got diff abilities and 'ultimates' like destiny's nades, melee, super. so if you've played that, it's kinda like that except no ADS, faster and with TF2 style objective gametypes.
 
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I m havin a lot of fun w/ soldier mcree reaper n zarya

I really want to like genji but I just don't "get" him yet
Get people to shoot at you, use deflect while running at them, then do the charge slice thingy to finish off, spam throwing starts. Good for long range turret kills.
 
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Ztir
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U know what else is good for long range bastion kills? Roadhog
 
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I'm just playing Lucio and Junkrat because the skill floor seems low while I learn the maps. I'm sure the ceiling is high though. Mei was interesting and did more damage than I expected.
 
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so again, what puts this in a different space than p much all other fps?
I would say its just more depth than mindless FPS shooters like deathmatch or counter-strike rounds. Like tribes did with skiing.

OW has unique characters that can instantly counter each other so strategy can be switched on the fly where I already had games that were so damn close. Each character has their own learning curve/skill level.

Overall, it might get boring just the same in the end. Its a nice 6v6 where if your team cooperates though, it's pretty fun both as a traditional shooter and strategy wise.
 
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Mei seems to do way too much damage for a character that has such amazing crowd control abilities.
 
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so almost like a moba/fps hybrid?

interesting

I mean I'm not gonna get it but still sounds neat
 
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Put in a few good maps with some other TWers. If you're not grouping the experience is sooo bad. I get ppl aren't too great with classes yet, but you have 2 players trying to work as a team and 4 other guys at totally different parts of the map.
 
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Ztir
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Did this guy just saw ow is has more depth than Cs

Lol
 
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Mei seems to do way too much damage for a character that has such amazing crowd control abilities.
And a self heal, and 250hp...yeah she's pretty ****ing retarded.
 
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Scud411
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she's fine.
ur bad.
 
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She's not OP, but Mei still triggers me pretty hard

Would def be done for some PUs
 
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there are hard counters to characters and people are still "maining" characters at this point so lots of qq about some being overpowered when in truth they are just playing the wrong class.

that said i still feel widow/hanzo are too spammy and fire too rapidly and clearly designed around consoles. as the pc players get better they will be tweaking that **** for sure. the flankers eat them up so who knows, maybe they are fine too.
 
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I played as Hanzo/Blackwidow briefly last night, and once I started killing/dealing damage, I was getting flanked shortly after by Reaper/Genji/teleport girl.

The balance is good when playing on a grouped team vs a grouped team. The TW group I was in last night was probably a bit better than 50/50 on wins vs the group we were paired with.
 
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There are a few hard counters to classes like Bastion, but mostly soft counters in general.

There are even a few classes with no counters at all (eg McCree).

And yes, I think his stun combo is still pretty silly(they nerfed it several times already in beta) and I question the wisdom of having an aoe stun mechanic in a fps.

The big problem is that if he's paired with a Reinhart on say a payload map, you can't range them b/c of the shield, but then you definitely don't want to close the distance on them either (he shreds Tracer/Reaper flanks). So you end up having to rely on burst combos to stop payloads (widowmaker plays etc) and double winston setups etc
 
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I'm just playing Lucio and Junkrat because the skill floor seems low while I learn the maps. I'm sure the ceiling is high though. Mei was interesting and did more damage than I expected.
I would say they are some of the more skill based toons because they have a more robust skill set. Nobody has a high skill ceiling.
 
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u guys r doin this all wrong holy fuk

here is wat u do


do a dab or smoke a joint or what not

load up ur pc

join game

kill enemy and do c00l stuff

u spergs r thinkin 2 much
 
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TooL
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do you have 100% accuracy??
 
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Ztir
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u guys r doin this all wrong holy fuk

here is wat u do


do a dab or smoke a joint or what not

load up ur pc

join game

kill enemy and do c00l stuff

u spergs r thinkin 2 much
Ya
 
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