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cael
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24521 - 11-12-2016, 06:31 PM
sum1's triggered
 
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24522 - 11-12-2016, 06:31 PM
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i'm sure the worlds 6th largest economy is really gonna struggle with issuing money
can't even balance a budget during record growth

Stock market slump causes California to face $1 billion shortfall

credit rating laughing stock despite being alleged power house

what happens when you have gubmt that can't help but spend money faster than they can take it from others
 
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cogzinofa
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24523 - 11-12-2016, 06:32 PM
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i believe they use what's called money to buy produce
we could do that, and we could also restructure water rights so those "independent" and "rugged" farmers who "don't take handouts" pay market rate on the water they use.

agriculture uses 80% of california water but accounts for 2% of economic activity.

we aren't socialists here. yeah, we have to get food from somewhere but if farmers aren't giving me food for free I'm against giving them water for free or at deep discounts. against government handouts? great, let's start with subsidized water.
 
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24524 - 11-12-2016, 06:32 PM
Gov. Jerry Brown sends lawmakers revised California budget with less money to spend on new programs



gov moonbeam last defense against fiscal insolvency

EL OH EL
 
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24525 - 11-12-2016, 06:33 PM
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i'm sure the worlds 6th largest economy is really gonna struggle with issuing money
tax money, that could be spent on airports sucka

and roads and all these things
 
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24526 - 11-12-2016, 06:33 PM
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Pretty much everyone. Student loan debt is their primary concern.

As to your data, that is based on 4 year old information and does not include private school data, which typically have tuition rates 3x higher than their public brethren. Would you deny free college to people seeking to go to a private school?
Of course you don't pay for private colleges. Does the public pay for private K-12? No, the public pays for public schools.
 
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24527 - 11-12-2016, 06:36 PM
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Of course you don't pay for private colleges. Does the public pay for private K-12? No, the public pays for public schools.
no we should just give it all to iran in cash

and gold
 
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24528 - 11-12-2016, 06:37 PM
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Of course you don't pay for private colleges. Does the public pay for private K-12? No, the public pays for public schools.
Well then that eliminates about 25% of college students, so that's a plus. Are we including community colleges in our free tuition plan?
 
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24529 - 11-12-2016, 06:37 PM
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we could do that, and we could also restructure water rights so those "independent" and "rugged" farmers who "don't take handouts" pay market rate on the water they use.

agriculture uses 80% of california water but accounts for 2% of economic activity.
so first the food they grow is your strength your barganing chip for independence from Trump and sovereignty

then it is a thing you should tax and punish for them taking water LA and SF needs to wash their tesla roadsters and water their golf courses

this is why California is such a god damn joke

this is exactly how the entire State operates.

Why nobody is happy and a six state solution probably isn't enough to stop internal succession movement
 
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24530 - 11-12-2016, 06:40 PM
no we should just pay the bare minimum for free education so all our students never strive for grreater things. cus its cost effective.
 
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cogzinofa
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24531 - 11-12-2016, 06:40 PM
CA agriculture is yuge but it's a small part of CA GDP. the only reason it's important is because it's so yuge.

I'm perfectly willing to admit the flaws and faults and hypocrisy of liberals. can you admit the same about these "rugged individualists" who take government handouts in the form or subsidized water?
 
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cael
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24532 - 11-12-2016, 06:41 PM
having the state of jefferson be californias west virginia is probably a good thing

let them be a drain on someone else's dole
 
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24533 - 11-12-2016, 06:41 PM
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Well then that eliminates about 25% of college students, so that's a plus. Are we including community colleges in our free tuition plan?
Are community colleges public?
 
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24534 - 11-12-2016, 06:42 PM
pay our teachers the bare minimum too

capitalism lost
 
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Groove
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24535 - 11-12-2016, 06:44 PM
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Pretty much everyone. Student loan debt is their primary concern.

As to your data, that is based on 4 year old information and does not include private school data, which typically have tuition rates 3x higher than their public brethren. Would you deny free college to people seeking to go to a private school?
look i'm not going to argue with facts like 'pretty much everyone wants all student loan debt wiped out', you asked for a citation and i provided it - and that number would probably be lower since the US already spends 20+ billion on Pell grants

no, i'm not saying you can forgive all past student debt, or pay for room and board and beer and hooker money for everyone, or pay for private school (really?)

but you can provide the young people of america an education, for a small cut in military spending. tack on all the absurd things you want to make it seem unrealistic, but imo its a much wiser investment of your tax dollars than the military.
 
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24536 - 11-12-2016, 06:44 PM
im not even a silver spooned faggit and i can see the logic in having prestigious schools to go to
 
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JoMo
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24537 - 11-12-2016, 06:46 PM
We need to nuke California and start over.
 
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cael
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24538 - 11-12-2016, 06:46 PM
you'll never get military cuts

the military is a welfare system for red states that is socially accpetable
 
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beep boop
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24539 - 11-12-2016, 06:48 PM
sure, if u try hard and u succeed, u can get much of that paid. other than that, i have no qualms turning away someone whose just going thru the motions.
 
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24540 - 11-12-2016, 06:49 PM
military cuts? we need more military pronto
 
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