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1 - 01-31-2015, 21:09
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I got a hankering to make some client-side maps...

Anyone know where I can get Zed, and whatever else I need to emulate an environment that can run Zed?

I'm running Windows 8.1 right now, and I'd **** myself if Zed worked natively.

Also, I notice Dox's blueprint tutorial is offline, any chance anyone saved a copy of it? I could use a refresher.
 
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zed.zip

idk if thats all u need for it i have a bunch of tools in one folder and im not sure if thats all of it
 
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what does zed do again? is this for those custom dis. shapes?
 
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Yes. It is a program that makes interior shapes for Starsiege and Starsiege: Tribes.

Thanks Groove, what else you got in that folder?
 
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are u new at the internet

Index of /twdemos/Groove/tools
 
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perrinoia
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Yes, and I was also born yesterday.

It's a sore subject, thanks for bringing it up, lemon.

Update: Zed runs in Windows 8.1... Time to **** myself.

Now I just gotta remember how to use it.

In order to create a new file, I need a pallet file (.ppl) and a material list file (.dml).

I found a bunch of .dml's in Tribes, but no ppls... Do I need to convert them from something, or is there a website that I can download ppls from?
 
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Yes. It is a program that makes interior shapes for Starsiege and Starsiege: Tribes.

Thanks Groove, what else you got in that folder?
 
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omg can you put a hole at the end of the warehouse.dis aka the scarabrae base?

I always wanted to see what an LT variation of that map played like. The flag could go inside the hangar and there could be a hole on the otherside kinda of like dox ice daggar hangars
 
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actually this is probably what you need:

Starsiege_Tools_v3.zip

it has zed with all the documentation and lots of other useful stuff you're probably gonna look for
 
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perrinoia
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Yessir... That's definitely what I needed. Thanks a ton!

S_hift, I'd need awarehouse.zed to do that...

This zip contains the following samples:
  • acommand.zed
  • BELfloatingPad.zed
  • bunker2.zed
  • COPLfloatingPad.zed
  • DSLfloatingPad.zed
  • SWLfloatingPad1.zed

Many years ago, I made a variation of the broadsides base (acommand.zed) that had the warp core looking thing removed from the generator room, the pillars removed from the upper entrance, and I tried to put a door in the back, but that edit ruined the whole project, and of course I hadn't saved changes yet...
 
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Actually, I still don't have any ppl files... There are folders that should contain ppl files, but they contain nothing.

Any idea where I get ppl files from? Does one of these other programs create them?

I'm guessing ppl is a package of textures or skins, like concrete, tiles, logos, etc...
 
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idk where i got them from but apparently i had 2 alien .ppl files, i dumped them in that same /tools folder lemon linked above
 
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Oh yeah, I see them now.

Maybe you got them from the alien vol or zip...

I'll extract all of them tonight and see if I can find more.
 
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can you make custom night.ppl files that don't render black fog, but render the fog as gray?
 
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Not with zed... Maybe one of those other apps in these download links can do something like that, but I don't really mess with skins, or whatever fog is.
 
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yeah fog is weird. personally i would like all of my fog to resemble low creeping mist. anyway to change the height of fog on a map?
 
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perrinoia
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No, as a map maker, I have the ability to change the fog distance... That is all I can do with fog.

There are client side memory hacking applications that can change fog, but that has nothing to do with making maps, and everything to do with cheating.

I have no intentions of exploring those possibilities.

PS: I got the ppls and the dmls, and the vols, but still can't create a new zed...

Maybe Zed isn't compatible with Windows 8.1 after all.

I've tried various types of compatibility modes with no success.
 
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did you try loading it on vmware?
 
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perrinoia
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Nope... Downloading now.

Update: No dice.

And the interesting thing is I don't always get the same error message...

This is the most recent, although, I've also received "Error allocating palette".
 
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i was high and kept clicking retry
 
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