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Students Deserve Extra Credit for Hard Sciences, Say Curriculum Docs | Wired Science from Wired.com
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Physics, chemistry and other science courses are far more difficult than the humanities -- so difficult, in fact, that students should be given extra credit for taking them.

So say experts from the Curriculum, Evaluation and Management Centre at Durham University. The findings seem self-evident to anyone -- i.e., a certain science journalist -- who's ever crammed for days just to scratch out a C-minus in trigonometry, but contradict the conclusions of Great Britain's national testing agency.

In February, the Qualifications and Curriculum authority announced that humanities-tracked students needed less study to ace their A-levels than those taking hard science courses. Nevertheless, the QCA recommended against leveling the academic playing field with a sliding achievement scale that assigns greater merit to scholastic science achievements.

By treating all exams as equally difficult, said CEM director Robert Coe, schools are short-changing themselves and their students.

"If universities and employers treat all grades as equivalent they will select the wrong applicants," said Coe in a press release. "A student with a grade C in Biology will generally be more able than one with a B in Sociology."

This in turn encourages students to take soft humanities rather than hard sciences, leaving the U.K. and its students poorly positioned in a science-fueled global economy -- a concern that could also apply to the United States.

But is a weighted grading system really the answer? I suspect that students will be less motivated by curricular incentives than a dose of reality: just show them what the average English major makes after graduation.
Suck it history majors.
 
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Yes, I have many science degrees.
 
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So what exactly is this thread about? How science classes are harder than humanities credits?


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Which major makes for a better ****?
An Engineering major or an Art major?

ptavv, you're stupid.
 
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Data hasn't said ****, I want quotes!!!!
 
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Ptavv only bangs supermodels with doctorates in quantum physics.
 
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I don't even understand the article.. yeah it's' harder, that's why they get paid more post-graduation.

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Your extra credit when getting a "CS" degree is the cube farm. Welcome to your 6x6.
 
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ngfm

i have my own office

with a (sorta crappy) view

what do you think of that
 
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balance is important, what good is one without the other?
 
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private school grade inflation is bull****. i looked at the open courseware for MIT's organic chemistsry and michigan's exams were way ****ing harder. i.e. MIT had multiple choice options and maybe 2 short answers / descriptions while UM tests are completely self-derivative and problem-based

from this single example i can conclude the mass cock'n'bull at hand
 
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my organic chemistry tests were

here's a two carbon molecule

now make me this 12 carbon poly substituted poly chiral molecule

in five steps

it sucked and was very difficult
 
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also, it takes 90+ credits for a science degree whereas a history/poly sci/phil degree is attainable after 30-40 creds.
 
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I build poly chiral molecules in my sleep.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOeEmbOJWpI

this guys voice is so monotone...

my years on TW have me expecting a zombie head at the end though
 
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History / Econ major.

Enjoy sucking on hard classes while I use my 4.0 gpa to get into a t14 law school.

 
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oh yeah

well enjoy your herpes, ******.
 
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Data must also necessarily show that Televisions are more popular than Books.
 
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also, it takes 90+ credits for a science degree whereas a history/poly sci/phil degree is attainable after 30-40 creds.
Not quite as extreme as you make it, but there's certainly a difference (about 20 credit hours @ UT, though most of it's just additional math)
 
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my organic chemistry tests were

here's a two carbon molecule

now make me this 12 carbon poly substituted poly chiral molecule

in five steps

it sucked and was very difficult
- RADICAL HALOGENATION
- ADD A NITRILE CONNECTED TO 8-9 CARBONS
- HYDROLYSIS OF NITRILE TO CARBOXYLIC ACID
- ORGANOMETALLICS TO REDUCE CARBONYL AND ADD THE REST OF YOUR ALKANE GROUP

BAM 4 STEPS WHAT NOW *****
 
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