okay, i was lookinng around on some game sites, and i came across THIS mod, 3 years in the making, for Warcraft3 Frozen throne. then, browsing another site while checking up on Starsiege 2845 i came across THIS nice little page. now i actually have a reason to buy WC3, as you need it and the frozen throne expansion, along with SC and BW, which i have several copies of (dont we all?)