This is why I always got along great with Zeph. For one thing he was always a smartass and had some shit to say, whether productive or not. I don't get offended and as you know, I laugh when others do get offended over harmless comments made simply to get them riled up. 10mans are nice because you know damn well who the shitty players are, the same shitty players that come along for 25s and blend in and try to hide their flaws.
Zeph was down to run anything at any time on any character that he had access to, others don't do a damn thing to better their character(s) other than log in for 25s and ask for loot. Zeph was the only person in the guild calling those people out but it fell on deaf ears. He's not the only person up in 10mans that doesn't have any upgrades to pick up, but he was always there whether we had a raid of ringers or shitty alts and we had fun. Uno's the only regular 10man person I've seen zeph give shit and really it's just because he's easy to piss off. If I was easily offended then he would've been doing the same to me, but I always just threw it back at him and we both laughed.
I don't dislike anyone in the guild but Mossy and that's only because every time that dumb motherfucker talks on vent it makes me want to reach through my monitor and punch him in the face. It's to the point that when he talks in guild chat I imagine him saying what he's typing in real life and it pisses me off just the same.
I understand why Zeph transferred because it's in a way the same reason I ended up with you guys on Onyxia. People stop showing up for the fun shit on off nights, people stop doing anything but logging in for the free loot then they're nowhere to be found until the next raid night, etc. I went through 2-3 months in TC where on many off nights we'd be lucky to have 5 people online and saw the same shit where people would get everything they wanted then stop showing up for 10s and not give a shit about 25s until something they want drops off a boss.
I'm sorry smaq, but a bunch of this is bullshit. You make it sound like some of us just log in to do 25s for loot, when in reality, there's 2 parts to playing this or any other type of mmo:
1) For the atmosphere. When not logged into WoW, I do have fun logging into AOC playing with the same people. I'm not logging into WoW just for loot.
2) For the game. When it's not fun anymore to do 10s or 5s, I chose to spend my time in other ways in the form of GTA4, catching some playoffs, and perhaps leaving my computer once in a while. WoW is just a total timesink, and I've never been a perfectionist of loot (which is why I still don't have a trinket).
You know me, I don't cry about loot. If anything, I've voiced a complaint once in TC over loot.
Next up is "zeph was the only one in the guild calling those people out and it fell on deaf ears." Is this a joke? I can't review WWS? I don't see what's going on during raids? It didn't fall on deaf ears. We're not hardcore. We're not optimizing for TC style of progression. The reason you're here is BECAUSE of that. The reason zeph left for a Sunwell guild is because he WANTED that, as opposed to the rest of us. I'm not going to start booting people left and right, recruit a bunch of pro fucking WoW players (lol) and have an atmosphere like TC again, where all the fun people left.
For a lot of us, "fun shit on the offnights" may not include WoW. I call out people when I see a severe lack of performance, not because they didn't maximize their performance. If anything, zeph may have ran the 10s seriously, but slacked off during the 25s which he admits to doing. When he performed shitty, I didn't call him out on it either because generally he performs well.