Young Muslim Woman Punches Christian Preacher!
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funny video, funny thread
Yeah, and I hear that the Pope wrote the Bible too!!!1
Like I said, it's an idiotic argument. You can't hold the ideals of "don't murder, don't hate, don't be jealous, don't harm, turn the other cheek, etc." to people who don't follow any of the above.
It's absolutely NO different than me listing off every atheist dictator that massacred millions and then saying that all atheists are the same or that there's something wrong with atheism.
And it's not a "No True Scotsman" fallacy. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There are rules to follow. If you don't follow those rules, you are not a part of that religion, because you don't represent what that religion adheres to.
What's the one "rule" of being an atheist? Think about it. It's like saying that you're an atheist, but you believe in God. YOU'RE NOT AN ATHEIST IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD. It's really that simple.
Learn to use the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy properly.
the entire point you keep missing is that DESPITE WHAT THE RULES ARE IT STILL HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS IN AN ORGANIZED FASHION, AND IT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY. In a very real sense, Christianity is NOT only what nice liuttle catchphrases are present in your scriptures. History demonstrates that it is ALSO undeniably conquest and violence, in the name of the faith. Trying to fall back on 'but the book says we love each other!' is entirely fallacious.
Muslims fall back on the trite statement that Islam is a religion of peace; yet you have those bloody verses to show. Christians say 'we are a religoin of peace', but the actions of organized Christianity put the lie to it.
This makes you even more like the Muslims.
Oh and yes, I was using the No True Scotsman fallacy correctly.
Oh, okay, well countless atheist leaders have committed mass genocide in very organized fashions.
I guess anyone who doesn't believe in God is a murder? One bad apple, right?
Once again, you are not distinguishing between the religion itself and people who claim to follow the religion.
I'm not religious, so I don't know why you're using pronouns.
No, you didn't. You're failing to realize that there are rules/prerequisites. You're just spewing shit that you've heard elsewhere and improperly attempting to apply it to this argument:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_scotsman_fallacy said:
An theist can't call himself a Christian, just as someone who mass-murders atheists can't call himself a Christian. They are in conflict with their own beliefs/ideals/rules. That's not to say that a Christian can never be at fault, but if they don't follow the religion and its rules, then they aren't Christian, regardless of whatever they like to call themselves. Catholics fit perfectly into this category.
p.s.
Your whole argument is that "well, some people who call themselves Christians, do non-Christian things in organized fashions." As if that somehow 100% directly relates to the religion itself as the source of the problem.
Well, not countless, there haven't been that many. And none ever claimed they did it for the cause of atheism, or that atheism necessitated the death of all these victims.
Your hyperbole does not refute what I said. It's just a panic-answer.
the religion alone is irrelevant. It is nonexistent without people to follow it.
Your fervent denial of an obvious truth makes me suspicious. I don't actually believe you.
No, I made this idea up myself as I was considering what to post.
False. Christians are a huge percent of the US prison population.
If they act on that obvious conflict, then what they are doing is what they actually believe. Again, the system is NOT ONLY what is said on paper; it's what that system drives its adherents to do.
One more time so it's clear:
the system is NOT ONLY what is said on paper; it's what that system drives its adherents to do.
Look, No True Scotsman!
The Crusades without any doubt were religion-driven. Jerusalem is of no use whatsoever to the English. Or the French. Or any of the people of Europe who answered the Pope's call to save the Holy City from the Muslims.
There is nothing in Jerusalem worth much except it's value as a holy site.
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MaxxCarnage
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This video is old as fuck, how was this not OFN'd?
wait Muslims can fuck 9 year olds?
Wheres the nearest temple I'm signing up!!!
Wheres the nearest temple I'm signing up!!!
And so begins the noble doctrine of they-started-it-first-ism.
What is it you think you're supposed to turn the other cheek to, anyway?
What?
<insert random statement here>
Stop using pronouns. faggot. I'll respond once you correct yourself.
TF_Grungir
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has anyone asked:
a) what a muslim woman was doing out of the home
b) speaking to a man unchaperoned
c) speaking without being given permission to do so
??
a) what a muslim woman was doing out of the home
b) speaking to a man unchaperoned
c) speaking without being given permission to do so
??
Oh, well if you said it, I'm sure it's true. No one has ever died because of their beliefs or anything.
Your hyperbole does not refute what I said. It's just a panic-answer.
How deep and profound.
I don't give a flying fuck what you do or don't believe. You're too incompetent to refute anything I've said.
False. Being Christian when they enter and becoming Christians are once again two different things. You're also ignoring the glaringly obvious fact that a majority of them claim to be Christian in hopes of getting lighter sentences or parole.
Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would see that. I'm not shocked you don't.
Righto.
I tell ya what, there's a new religion. It's called Whatism. It's followers are called Whaters. The rule of being a Whatever is that you are not allowed to post on any forums.
You as a self-proclaimed follower of Whatism, decide to post on TW everyday without regard to the one rule.
Are you still a Whaters? And is it Whatism's fault that you decided to post on TW?
I'm sorry to everyone else for this idiotic example, but some people are just so stupid, logic doesn't work with them. You have to talk to them as if they're a child.
Oh hey, well feel free where the religion to tell me where the religion itself (New Testament) told them to do that.
In fact, if would be so kind, explain to me where the Pope is mentioned in Christianity.
Just like Jews, they are wish-washy followers of Islam.
The people actually following the religion are the ones we call terrorists. Have you ever seen the devout Jews in Israel? They're fucking crazy.
TonyElTigre
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That chick was super lame, at least the Christian dude had some jokes, she just wanted to argue symantics
I said it because it's true, not the reverse. Is your best method of arguing doing so at a grade school level?
Your hyperbole does not refute what I said. It's just a panic-answer.
Truth is often like that.
You haven't said anything to refute, you've just stamped your feet and used hyperbole as if removing what I'e said to extremes somehow refutes it. I actually do know how to do this, you apparently need some practice.
Can you show the stats on entry to prison + religion vs conversion while incarcerated? Or are you just grasping at straws? Did you know that when the US prison system identifies an inmate's religion, it's the inmate who declares what he is? If he declares, he's one. And why exactly do you believe parolees have a better chance if they are Christian?
When it's obvious that Christians are MOST LIKELY to wind up a convicted criminal?
Does this have any kind of coherent relation to what's being discussed? Oh wait, I forgot, you can't come up with actual points, so you post gibberish and pretend it's a response. Got it.
The New Testament is just a book, it can't tell someone a thousand years [well, actually 700 years] after it was edited together, anything. The religion's leaders on Earth did tell them that though. For 9 different wars. Plus a few odd skirmishes. It doesn't matter what the text says, it matters what the adherents do with it.
Sucks that history says you are dumb.
Why is there a Pope, Validuz?
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