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87121 - 08-21-2018, 21:39
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Originally Posted by Gouge
Jewzilla.
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Originally Posted by Captain Tele
once u see it take its form......u can't not see it
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humpback
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VeteranXX
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87122 - 08-21-2018, 22:04
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Originally Posted by Vanster
I'll go two steps further: As we now have a convicted felon (Cohen) saying he conspired with then-candidate Trump to violate campaign finance laws. That in itself, if true, is an impeachable offense. Even without the Mueller's report, which will be coming, there is now sufficient evidence to impeach AND remove from office, and finally, incarcerate.
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lol keep that dream alive u deranged fool
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VeteranXV
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87123 - 08-21-2018, 22:21
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VeteranXX
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87124 - 08-21-2018, 22:25
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Originally Posted by Vanster
I'll go two steps further: As we now have a convicted felon (Cohen) saying he conspired with then-candidate Trump to violate campaign finance laws. That in itself, if true, is an impeachable offense. Even without the Mueller's report, which will be coming, there is now sufficient evidence to impeach AND remove from office, and finally, incarcerate.
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Cohen isn't a convicted felon either, his sentencing is scheduled for Dec. 12, only then will he be a convicted felon.
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REEEEEEEEEEEXV
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87125 - 08-21-2018, 22:35
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VeteranXX Contributor
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87126 - 08-21-2018, 22:36
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Trump isn't going to be impeached no matter how much the left masturbates to the idea
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VeteranXV
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87127 - 08-21-2018, 22:38
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Originally Posted by Gouge
Cohen isn't a convicted felon either, his sentencing is scheduled for Dec. 12, only then will he be a convicted felon.
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Someone is considered convicted when they're found guilty.
In the Manafort trial, that was the second the jury said guilty.
Cohen plead guilty. He was a felon the second the judge signed the order.
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VeteranXV
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87128 - 08-21-2018, 22:43
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Originally Posted by Fool
I don't believe campaign finance violations fall under high crimes and misdemeanors.
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I don't believe Fool knows what "high crimes" means in the context of the constitution.
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"High" in the legal and common parlance of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries of "high crimes" signifies activity by or against those who have special duties acquired by taking an oath of office that are not shared with common persons.
A high crime is one that can only be done by someone in a unique position of authority, which is political in character, who does things to circumvent justice. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" when used together was a common phrase at the time the U.S. Constitution was written and did not mean any stringent or difficult criteria for determining guilt. It meant the opposite. The phrase was historically used to cover a very broad range of crimes.
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High crimes and misdemeanors - Wikipedia
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87129 - 08-21-2018, 22:48
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when in doubt whatabout
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The impeachment of the King's Chancellor, Michael de la Pole, 1st Earl of Suffolk in 1386 was the first case to use this charge. One charge under this heading alleged that de la Pole broke a promise to Parliament. He had promised to follow the advice of a committee regarding improvement of the kingdom. Another charge said that he failed to pay a ransom for the town of Ghent, and because of that the town fell to the French.
The 1450 impeachment of William de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk, a descendant of Michael's, was next to allege charges under this title. He was charged with using his influence to obstruct justice, cronyism, and wasting public money. Other charges against him included acts of high treason.
Impeachment fell out of use after 1459 but Parliament revived it in the early 17th century to bring the King's ministers to book. In 1621, Parliament impeached the King's Attorney General, Sir Henry Yelverton for high crimes and misdemeanors. The charges included failing to prosecute after starting lawsuits and using authority before it was properly his.
After the Restoration the scope of the charge grew to include negligence, and abuse of power or trust while in office. For example, charges in the impeachment of Edward Russell, 1st Earl of Orford in 1701 included many violations of trust and his position. In this case, he abused his position in the Privy Council to make profits for himself; as Treasurer of the Navy he embezzled funds; and as Admiral of the Fleet he got a commission for the pirate William Kidd.
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good thing Trump wasn't President yet
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High crimes and misdemeanors is a phrase from Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
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you still don't consider him your President
how you like them apples?
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VeteranXV
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87130 - 08-21-2018, 22:48
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Originally Posted by Fool
What? Doing it isn't as bad as talking about doing it?
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Lets be clear with what Trump actually stands accused of doing.
According to Cohen, who was under oath, Trump told Cohen to pay Stormy Daniels $130,000.
Cohen then committed a felony to get that money, he lied on a loan application (count 6)
Cohen paid Stormy via his company to influence the election at the direction of Trump and the campaign, a campaign finance violation (count 8)
Cohen submitted a false invoice to Trump corp for repayment
Trump corporation then paid Cohen back $460,000. If you're keeping track, that's.. significantly more.
Trump paid Cohen hundreds of thousands of dollars to commit multiple felonies.
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VeteranXX
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87131 - 08-21-2018, 22:51
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Originally Posted by JuggerNaught
Trump isn't going to be impeached no matter how much the left masturbates to the idea
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Hey - even Nixon wasn't impeached
Billy Clinton was though, just think about that one libtards
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VeteranXV
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87132 - 08-21-2018, 22:52
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I wonder who's security clearance trump will revoke tomorrow
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VeteranXX Contributor
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87133 - 08-21-2018, 22:52
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Originally Posted by absent
What's collusion though? When is Mueller going to deliver? How long do the American people have to wait to get rid of this literally crazy Manchurian candidate? At what point does Mueller become complicit if he refuses to charge Trump?
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This is a top shelf quality troll. Cheers, absent.
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Veteran³ Immigrant
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87134 - 08-21-2018, 22:53
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Originally Posted by triple
Lets be clear with what Trump actually stands accused of doing.
According to Cohen, who was under oath, Trump told Cohen to pay Stormy Daniels $130,000.
Cohen then committed a felony to get that money, he lied on a loan application (count 6)
Cohen paid Stormy via his company to influence the election at the direction of Trump and the campaign, a campaign finance violation (count 8)
Cohen submitted a false invoice to Trump corp for repayment
Trump corporation then paid Cohen back $460,000. If you're keeping track, that's.. significantly more.
Trump paid Cohen hundreds of thousands of dollars to commit multiple felonies.
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best case for you it is a good thing all of that happened before he was President......or even elected to become President
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August 6, 2016: McDougal, on advice of attorney Keith Davidson, signed a nondisclosure deal with AMI, for which she was paid $150,000 and promised she would be featured on the company***8217;s magazine covers and in its health and fitness columns. This effectively buries the story; AMI***8217;s CEO, David Pecker, is a longtime personal friend of Trump***8217;s.
McDougal had, earlier that summer, worked with Keith Davidson (the same attorney that represented Daniels at this point) to reach a deal with AMI to sell the story of her affair with Trump for at least $500,000. But the company, which is run by a close friend of Trump***8217;s, ultimately declined to buy the story. Then McDougal reached out to ABC News, after which AMI came forward with the offer to buy it for $150,000 and bury it.
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October 26, 2016: To prove that he had the $130,000 necessary to pay Daniels as part of the nondisclosure deal being negotiated, Cohen forwarded to Davidson an email from a bank official confirming he had made a deposit to his checking account. The emails with the bank official were sent using Cohen***8217;s official Trump Organization email, raising questions about the source of the funds.
October 27, 2016: Cohen wired the $130,000 to Davidson, to pass on to Daniels.
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dang how about that
Michael Cohen plea deal: payments to Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels, explained - Vox
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Veteran³ Immigrant
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87135 - 08-21-2018, 22:54
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defeated his own bull**** argument and qualification for high crimes
and the defense rests........thank you
moved them goal posts away from Russia, having anything to do with Russia
and still came up short and hitting pear for his own course
man it must suck to be you
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Last edited by Captain Tele; 08-21-2018 at 23:00..
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87136 - 08-21-2018, 22:56
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In what way does this refute my point?
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VeteranXX
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87137 - 08-21-2018, 22:56
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Originally Posted by triple
Someone is considered convicted when they're found guilty.
In the Manafort trial, that was the second the jury said guilty.
Cohen plead guilty. He was a felon the second the judge signed the order.
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Only a judge can issue sentence for Felony convictions, that hasn't happened yet.
I never said he wasn't convicted, he's just not a convicted felon...yet.
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Veteran4
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87138 - 08-21-2018, 22:56
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jfccccccccc tele have return
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VeteranXV
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87139 - 08-21-2018, 22:57
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Originally Posted by Captain Tele
defeated his own bull**** argument and qualification for high crimes
and the defense rests........thank you
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You can "defense rests" all night long.
Your stupid arguments are irrelevant, as has been demonstrated today.
In the end, people are still going to jail, regardless of how many gifs you post.
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VeteranXV
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87140 - 08-21-2018, 22:58
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Originally Posted by Gouge
Only a judge can issue sentence for Felony convictions, that hasn't happened yet.
I never said he wasn't convicted, he's just not a convicted felon...yet.
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What do you think convicted felon means?
Was cohen convicted? Yes.
Of a felony? Yes x8.
Convicted felon.
Play word games all you want the ****er is still going to jail for 5 years.
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