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If you read the thread, you'd see there is such huge technical hurdles to overcome - some are really insurmountable like making these little disks that have to have pico meter precision produced for just pennies a piece.

And for what? What's the goal here? To produce cheap electricity. We already have super cheap electricity Fusion power might reduce rates by maybe 10%. So that's not the reason for this research.

Like Goshin posted, the military is already laying IP on the new tech. Is the real goal a military application? Maybe the Air Farce wants to have fusion powered lolerlaserplanes? because of the promise of having super small reactors? Fuk em.

This money can be better spent by me with reduced taxes.
 
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been done yet?
 
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Initially it's not for super cheap electricity, its for clean electricity, that produces no harmful byproduct.
 
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tokomak wont work

ITER is a red herring
for hundreds of millions of dollars, not tens of billions with a lead time of 10-15 years, we can have fusion*

if the test results are positive in may (and all previous tests are having great results)

ITER is not the way of the future. It's huge, it's expensive, and it hasn't ever worked.

Polywell and focus fusion are having very real gains and it's going to be an exciting next few years for space and fusion!
 
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been done yet?
Yessir.
 
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If you read the thread, you'd see there is such huge technical hurdles to overcome - some are really insurmountable like making these little disks that have to have pico meter precision produced for just pennies a piece.

And for what? What's the goal here? To produce cheap electricity. We already have super cheap electricity Fusion power might reduce rates by maybe 10%. So that's not the reason for this research.

Like Goshin posted, the military is already laying IP on the new tech. Is the real goal a military application? Maybe the Air Farce wants to have fusion powered lolerlaserplanes? because of the promise of having super small reactors? Fuk em.

This money can be better spent by me with reduced taxes.
It has less to do with lowering costs then it does with increasing supply. Increasing supply so much our economy can shift away from carbon based fuels until it is completely non-carbon based.

Also if you haven't noticed car companies are hopping on the electric car bandwagon and major money is being dumped into energy storage technology. If large parts of our transportation infrastructure are going to move away from carbon based fuels we are going to need much more power then our grid can supply at the moment and fusion is a good step in the right direction.

Of course there are many other reasons behind it and you are a douchebag who refuses to use logic.
 
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fusion is probably the ultimate step in the right direction

we'll stop using so much oil and gas for heating and electricity and keep that scarce resource available for plastics and other things of necessity.

now i wonder who will buy the third world a fusion reactor so they dont keep going nuts
 
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God... arsin is so ****ing stupid.

 
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IEC Fusion Technology
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Tri-Alpha Energy, Polywell Fusion, and Dense Plasma Focus are all working on the holy grail of fusion physics. The combining of Hydrogen (a proton when ionized) and Boron 11 which is a fusion reaction that gives off very few neutrons and whose reaction product is high energy (relatively) charged particles which would allow converting the resultant energy directly to electricity. This greatly lowers the cost of a power plant. Consider that for a fission (currently Uranium) power plant 80% of the cost is in the steam plant which is used to convert the heat output of the reactor into electricity or shaft horsepower in the case of a ship.

One other point. Consider the millions being spent on these fusion experiments with the billions being spent on ITER which is currently in big financial trouble. The reported fix is to steal money from small research projects in other disciplines.
8 months to go for polywell's wb-8 and the knowledge to see if his expansion properties holds true
 
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Finally dotting,

I really hope that this succeed to spite the negative sphinctoids of ignorance.
 
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IEC Fusion Technology
other ****

8 months to go for polywell's wb-8 and the knowledge to see if his expansion properties holds true
awesome news if it does

gogo fusion power yay!
 
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looks like you answered your own ****ing question then. another star. how do stars make elements heavier than helium? they go nova.
bull****

stars can go up to iron no problem... AFTER iron elements are created by Type 1-4 Super Nova.
 
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where the hell did that quote come from?
 
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stars can go up to iron no problem... AFTER iron elements are created by Type 1-4 Super Nova.
Our own sun has an iron core, correct?

EDIT: If I am reading this site right our sun did not make iron. It came from previous stars in the area.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=244
 
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our star is a very average star, stars can make up to iron would be much larger. im pretty sure our star will not go past whatever is after helium (if that)
 
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MY STARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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our star is a very average star, stars can make up to iron would be much larger. im pretty sure our star will not go past whatever is after helium (if that)
It'll start making the usual stepladder (C, Si, S, Mg, Fe) once it goes red giant. Everything past that, you need a supernova.

Interesting fact: our planet has least a small sample of every atom stable enough to last ~4 billion years. There are no atoms will half-lives of just millions of years or less that can be found in nature (except those still being made from when the first category of atoms fall apart).

If the world were 6000 years old, there should still be some Americium-243 lying around.
 
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IEC Fusion Technology
other ****

8 months to go for polywell's wb-8 and the knowledge to see if his expansion properties holds true
Quick question: have they tried to harness fusion energy through electricity made from high-velocity ions, or is this a totally new idea?
 
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cool, thanks for the info wowbagger
 
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not this thread again.
 
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