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21 - 08-09-2011, 11:27
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BBC News - England riots: Insurance covers disorder damage

BS. of course, insurance won't cover you if you didn't have insurance in the first place... lol...
Not BS.

UK riots: Home and business insurance: Are you covered?

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Will business owners be covered for damage to their property?

Yes, if they have 'full perils' cover which includes Riot, Civil Commotion and Malicious Damage
It's a specific subset of insurance. Given that a lot of businesses tend to run very lean in regards to their budgets (of which insurance is a part), there's quite a few that had themselves covered under the main categories of insurance (fire, theft, etc), but not necessarily riot/malicious damage.

In a way, it's similar as to how tons of people get ****ed whenever an unexpected flood hits an area that normally doesn't have much flooding. Because flood insurance is a high added expense for areas with a low probability for floods, many don't have it.

There's a decent chunk of businesses that are looking at being partially compensated for the riot damage - but the overall monetary loss is more than enough to cause many to be done for good.
 
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Am I occupying the property that is threatened (house, workplace, etc)? Then yes, I'd defend it with lethal force. If someone is flipping my car or something in a parking lot, **** no unless i'm inside it.

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Not BS.

UK riots: Home and business insurance: Are you covered?

Key note is here:


It's a specific subset of insurance. Given that a lot of businesses tend to run very lean in regards to their budgets (of which insurance is a part), there's quite a few that had themselves covered under the main categories of insurance (fire, theft, etc), but not necessarily riot/malicious damage.

In a way, it's similar as to how tons of people get ****ed whenever an unexpected flood hits an area that normally doesn't have much flooding. Because flood insurance is a high added expense for areas with a low probability for floods, many don't have it.

There's a decent chunk of businesses that are looking at being partially compensated for the riot damage - but the overall monetary loss is more than enough to cause many to be done for good.


Also, not sure where you live but if you're not on a flood plain and in an area that never really sees any flooding, generally flood coverage is included in your regular policy and not offered as a rider. At least that's how it works in MA (I know because I claimed for it during a microburst that totally ****ed up my house and vehicles and was awarded full coverage).
 
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It's just hilarious to see your balls grow in a post.


If insurance covers it I'm gone
 
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Many insurance policies actually won't cover damages/losses caused by instances of mass civil disobedience (ie: riots). There's more than a few small businesses in London right now that will never recover due to the events happening there right now.

Part of the point here too is that when rioters realize that the risk of looting from certain stores is potential for serious physical harm/death (as opposed to very little risk of harm), the risk/reward skews in such a way that it's no longer worth it.

A big motivating thought process for many in these mobs is simply the idea of "GONNA GET SOME FREE ****." The benefits of getting free **** however, are greatly outweighed by the costs of getting shot.
Killing people as part of an equation is a riskier and more serious business than you seem to appreciate, and it's just amusing to see so many people stroking their cocks at the prospect.
 
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Yes I support defending one's property/life with whatever force necessary.
I agree with this, but I also wouldn't want to live somewhere like the US where people like mstrike are allowed to own 5 guns because they are scared of black people

i know
 
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oh please shut the **** up, aj.

i don't want to kill someone, but if someone broke in to my house then **** yes i would.

would it bring me pleasure? no.

would i feel remorse, though? probably not much.
 
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I agree with this, but I also wouldn't want to live somewhere like the US where people like mstrike are allowed to own 5 guns because they are scared of black people

i know
Well, for every scared crazy person out there who owns tons of guns, there are plenty more people like me who own high powered deer rifles if the crazies get out of hand, and for hunting game of course.
 
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I'm going to protect my home and business. Even if your business is covered by insurance the month+ it will take you to get the money from insurance, fix everything and restock the shelves could be enough to bankrupt a small business owner.

I don't own a small business though so i would probably just get together with all the other gun nuts in the neighborhood and set up some lawn chairs at the end of the road. Make the next neighborhood over look like easier targets.
 
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the month+ it will take you to get the money from insurance, fix everything and restock the shelves could be enough to bankrupt a small business owner...

...so I blew his ass away, Your Honor.
My narrow point is that there's a bit of a disconnect with reality here. Except in Texas.
 
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I support lethal force only if defending a Macintosh.
 
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i try an stay out of these threads
 
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i wish aj would too
 
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i came in here for laffosthen notice you idiots talking about insurance

gotta go for a bit but i'll take a look at this more in depth now
 
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we can talk about the different types of commercial policies available to different businesses, there are ... 10 major ones. Inside those are huge differences based on what the business wants to add as a rider.

i cant speak for UK policies
the month the business is out for repairs insurance is payin them for lost income/wages/inventory
 
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Well, for every scared crazy person out there who owns tons of guns, there are plenty more people like me who own high powered deer rifles if the crazies get out of hand, and for hunting game of course.
only takes one mad person and one small gun to end a lot of lives in a very small time

I guess I'm just not down with guns...
 
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12 gague works perfectly fine for that.
 
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My zombie invasion training skills would come in very useful for such an emergency.
 
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Killing people as part of an equation is a riskier and more serious business than you seem to appreciate, and it's just amusing to see so many people stroking their cocks at the prospect.
So you enjoy watching me stroke my cock?
 
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If it was my home I wouldn't even blink about pulling the trigger. Business? Depends on how attached I was to it and if insurance would cover things. I mean if it were a place I just happened to work out of **** no. If its something I built up out of nothing I'd probably be inclined to say hi with something unfriendly.
 
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