[E-Cigs] Fucking awesome
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Pirate Steve
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these e-cigs are no safer then regular cigarettes and they have chemicals in the cartridges that are suspected or known to cause cancer.
wrong
Pirate Steve
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Electronic Cigarettes: Are They Safe? - The Early Show - CBS News
FDA Warns of Health Risks Posed by E-Cigarettes
FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes
^specifically the part that says
"The FDA’s Division of Pharmaceutical Analysis analyzed the ingredients in a small sample of cartridges from two leading brands of electronic cigarettes. In one sample, the FDA’s analyses detected diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze that is toxic to humans, and in several other samples, the FDA analyses detected carcinogens, including nitrosamines. These tests indicate that these products contained detectable levels of known carcinogens and toxic chemicals to which users could potentially be exposed."
do some research before you sound like more of an idiot
I have fat boy
we know it has nicotine and we know it has diethylene glycol
What else has diethylene glycol? do you know?
So we know these two are in e cigs, do you know whats in a regular cig?
I never said either was healthy, but one is much safer
e-cigs just aren't the same as smoking a regular cigarette; at least not enough to completely replace it. the full body of smoke and the feeling of such is what's got me behaviorally hooked 4-5 times at the moment.
also, w/ an e-cig, you really have no idea how much you smoke in a session, and you just end up puffing away probably a shitty indiscriminate amount of nicotine
also, w/ an e-cig, you really have no idea how much you smoke in a session, and you just end up puffing away probably a shitty indiscriminate amount of nicotine
Pirate Steve
Veteran XX
yes cartridges that are made in china with no regulations are totally safer then regular cigarettes. i liked how you use my examples in your argument. at least now i know you're just talking out your ass.
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at fat boyPirate Steve
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you're taking that site seriously?
smoke what you want, i used to smoke cigs all the time but have quit successfully cold turkey. saying one is better for you is completely false though, you're trading in what you know is killing you, for another.
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I dunno why I wouldn't take the site seriously. You can even go ahead and look at the primary sources for the chart. While e-cigs do contain some of the carcinogens that you find in cigarettes that shouldn't come as a huge shock since the nicotine is derived from... tobacco. I doubt there exists a process that could extract the nicotine will 100% efficiency. The issue is that the levels of carcinogens are much lower, trace amounts, and sit around the same level as those found in the patch or gum.
If anyone is wondering why the FDA is clamoring to stop the sale of these things it should be noted that the government makes a fuck-ton of money from people buying cigarettes.
Good for you for quitting, I quit too. I also barely use my e-cig anymore. Maybe after a night at the bar or something if I get a little craving.
Pirate Steve
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no thats silly, and i wouldn't outlaw e-cigs. but to not even know whats in them and smoke them doesn't sit well with me
Pirate Steve
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well first i wouldn't take that site seriously regarding tobacco issues because its a tobacco blog. i did look at the charts and links it contained but they are from obscure sites that are either for/against smoking. It all seemed very biased and a lot of it was outdated. the fact is the fda has never given approval to these and they seem too good to be true
good point. I have met a few people who would smoke half a cig and put it out, very few.
With an e cig you can do a couple puffs and move on. That a big plus in my book.
And you can make your own juice for pretty cheap, and control the amount of nicotine you ingest as well.
Do I think it's healthy no, but a great alternative to smoking yes. There is a getting used to it break in period. Best one I have come across so far.
With an e cig you can do a couple puffs and move on. That a big plus in my book.
And you can make your own juice for pretty cheap, and control the amount of nicotine you ingest as well.
Do I think it's healthy no, but a great alternative to smoking yes. There is a getting used to it break in period. Best one I have come across so far.
Pirate Steve
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im not trying to bash them either. but they have their own risks. true you aren't burning plant matter with it and yes regular cigs have a lot of shit to. its the unknowns that really get me
sorry dude i don't believe you. It's a nicotine delivery device and that's what piss's you off. Just like every other anti smoker. I'm ok with that, all I ask is you be honest about where your coming from
Pirate Steve
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uh. like i said, smoke what you guys want. if you don't care whats in them thats your business. i guess you've got nothing else to contribute now that you're back to being defensive. you also must have missed the post where i say i used to smoke, so i don't know who you're calling an anti smoker
Yes, thos people that 40 days ago shared the exact same vice as you. Fuck those assholes.
Or I should say. Fuck you asshole.
God I hope that was just a stupid troll. Way to come off like the guy who quit drugs 3 weeks ago and is talking shit about the "useless druggies" he knows.
You just can't come to Jesus Steve.
The point you made was that e cigs are as bad as regular cigs. Do you still think that?
The two ingredients that make e cigs bad are in regular cigs.
But with e cigs you don't get the other 450 plus cancer causes.
I'll put it to you this way.
If I caught my kid smoking cigs I'd beat his ass. If I caught him vaporizing I'd beat his ass. In my head though I'd be happy he was vaporizing and not smoking cigs.