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Originally Posted by Bill Bellamy
uhmm if you actually read what I said I agree'd a long time ago. I never thought Osgood was a great goalie, what I'm arguing is that how can YOU argue over how good a goalie is by saying how good his team was?
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easily when you quote the statistics you have. his numbers reflect the team he played for, not his abilities.
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Originally Posted by Bill Bellamy
If you were to show someone those stats who knows nothing about hockey and told them what each stat meant they would probably say that Osgood is a 'great' goalie.
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yes, but they know nothing about hockey... and apparently nothing about the team he played for... why even type these words?
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Originally Posted by Bill Bellamy
You're arguing over **** that's completely subjective yet trying to make a solid point, like "Osgood was never required to be a deciding factor" oh really? Well can you actually give some credible evidence that shows that? Probably not.
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watching any of the games would be evidence enough for anyone with eyeballs.
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Are there any little tidbits on the net showing real actual stats that Ozzie doesn't need to 'work as hard' on a team like the Red Wings?
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irrelevant
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Originally Posted by Bill Bellamy
What I can show you is facts, stats and rings. Period.
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and i've already explained why these are all meaningless but you just don't seem to get it... it's not even difficult to grasp... maybe i just don't hang out with red wings fanboys but i've never met a single human being who has ever claimed osgood was a great goalie worthy of being quoted among great goalies.
we're talking about a guy that was tossed aside byt the wings, isles and blues because he wasn't worth anything of value. i wonder how many times patrick roy was thrown on waivers
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Originally Posted by Bill Bellamy
Again... before your insecurities come rising from your bowels again, you're not wrong, you're just arguing something that clearly has no solid answer.
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Pretty solid to anyone who actually watches him play.