ss is a shill partisan faggot fuck
Care to discuss civilly?
voted for Trump
thinks the welfare system sucks
owns firearms and supports the 2nd amendment
is anti-abortion
is religious
...because I also think that we, as a society, should try to help the less fortunate through some means of social support
and yet you don't think women should have the right to terminate unwanted pregnancies, instead forcing them to bring an unwanted child into the world which other people will inevitably end up supporting. It must be nice to be able to spend other peoples money like that
yes, because i consider a fetus to be alive at some point
i am also against people murdering their elderly parents or disabled children, even though that costs money to take care of them
SS do you have any reputable sources that say trickle down has overall been good?
Trickle-down economics is a dead simple theory, why do you need someone to explain it to you to have a conversation? Just so you can continue on presuming the stupidity of those who think it's an inane demand?
What isn't fair in a democracy is not that others have more, it's that a dollar is worth more than a vote. Politicians are elected to represent the people, but the current system represents special interests far and away more than the people as a whole. You can see this in virtually every kind of legislation. Corporatocracy, plutocracy, crony capitalism, whatever you want to call it - it isn't democracy.
The problem with saying the above is that there are soooo many aspects of the economy that are constantly changing that it is basically impossible to say that '"giving the wealthy more of their money" instead of forcibly removing it and giving it to people who produce nothing, "does not typicallyproduce much economic growth."'Ixiterra said:Giving the wealthiest of wealthy more money does not typically produce much economic growth - there are plenty of papers on this if you'd like to do some research for yourself. Instead, they just end up controlling a larger share of the economy. You're not out to own more "stuff" at the top, you're out to gain more power which our system easily allows you to do.
Agreed with the above, even though I did not vote for El Trumpo.Ixiterra said:This, I think, will effectively eventually lead to corporations controlling the world. And they are trying - one of the big reasons I liked Trump was because he was against the TPP. My fucking god what a rights-stripping corporation takeover attempt that piece of shit was. And written in secret of course, because the public can't be a party to the conversation of taking their rights away.
Sorry for the quotes - rereading some Ludwig von Mises.Ixiterra said:Fairness in a democracy is one person one vote, not one dollar one vote. Remove money from politics - lol. Tax the wealthy a lot - definitely not ideal because a smaller government is a better government, but it is somewhat of a stopgap. Alternatively, find a way to distribute the growth of the economy to all citizens more or less equally. Communism! you might say. Except virtually all growth in the economy goes to Wall Street or London like leeches when they produce absolutely nothing of value except digital zeroes. The productivity of the people is sapped away by these leeches and it shows in the widening wealth gap.
really? You're even dumber than I thought.
Trump is:
* rich (by 'most people' standards)
* an egomaniac.
* utterly without ethics.
That right there basically boils down to a guy who's going to do everything he can to benefit himself, and by extension, the rich. The whole 'eliminate estate tax' is probably the most obvious one out there.
Trump was a fantastic option for the super-rich. Probably the best since Reagan himself, maybe even longer. You bought the rhetoric, not the reality.
Scaling back affordable and or free birth control is the dumbest possible thing the government could possibly do.
Colorado's Effort Against Teenage Pregnancies Is a Startling Success - NYTimes.com
It's a long term proven fact that access to cheap / free birth control lowers teen / poor pregnancies, which in turn lowers both abortion rates and government assistance payouts.
Getting rid of it is asinine. This is the furthest from MAGA. It's retarded.
The problem with saying the above is that there are soooo many aspects of the economy that are constantly changing that it is basically impossible to say that '"giving the wealthy more of their money" instead of forcibly removing it and giving it to people who produce nothing, "does not typicallyproduce much economic growth."'
Sorry for the quotes - rereading some Ludwig von Mises.
The main propaganda trick of supporters of the allegedly "progressive" policy of government control is to blame capitalism for all that is unsatisfactory in present-day conditions and to extol the blessings of socialism. They have never attempted to prove their fallacious dogmas, all they did was to call their adversaries names and cast suspicion upon their motives. And, unfortunately, the average citizen cannot see through these stratagems. The liars must be afraid of the truth and are therefore driven to suppress its pronouncement.
- Ludwig von Mises
What pushes the masses into the camp of socialism is, even more than the illusion that socialism will make them richer, the expectation that it will curb all those who are better than they themselves are.
- Ludwig von Mises
be considered a "leftist", simply because I disagree with some of the ways in which the "right" wants to do things, and because I also think that we, as a society, should try to help the less fortunate through some means of social support, as well as thinking everyone is entitled to a basic level of healthcare.