opsayo u were rite

i buy bag o frozen broklee and other vegtable

i also buy boil in bag brown ricve that is par boil so it take only 10 mins

i prolly get real lazy soon 2 and do same

i m on business trip now tho rite now and i eat fukin pizza last nite and eat chicken wing 2nite

cant wait 2 get back home and back 2 chicken ricve hot sauce
 
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groove where $showweapon :heart:
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its more complicated than i think im smart enough 2 do

i could only get the whole player trans and couldn't actually change the trans level altho maybe i could tinker again later

:(

would be cool 2 bundle together weapon LoDFix + trans
 
Kismet said:
right this is another reason why cheats arent that bad

you can put it in a dichotomy of

do you want to play shit pubs/pus with unaware players vs playing pubs/pus with aware players but cuz of cheats

also giving terrible players cheats will force them to learn awareness so that if the cheats are ever taken off they are better due to habit
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i m glad so many of you support things like perma-iff on flag that will be in new game called midair (previously project z). can't wait to see you all not complaining about any of these things that help new players play the objective and even the playing field which makes the game more competitive for good players.
 
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i talked a lot of shit to opsayo to get him to release it

i thought it would help the game but it just made the hacking (andrew) and one track mind shit more prevalent, and i was disgusted
 
i would rather play ctf without cheats fire but if it comes between forcing people to use an extra laggy client like lasthope while penalizing people that use netsettings all to stop 1 or 2 cheaters and you end up with 2/3rds of your community quitting over night and a bunch of mods dying i'd rather just let people cheat

perma iffs take a lot of the fun and awareness game out of tribes dumbing it down into a pure sperg fest of who has the best aim and its only when they're a mitigating factor to people quitting the game that i can see it as reasonable to allow them and try to see the positives of allowing them
 
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we basically play with superhudbot on arghs every fukin night and still have fun only difference is you cant hit and run and hide as much
 
when did 2/3 of the community quit over lasthope

cause i remember when it came out (1.30 and 1.31 FoX) and there wasn't any noticeable drop in player count

maybe ur thinking of way later when there was a change to lasthope that got rid of most of the bypasses?

at that point so many people were using cheats it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't be able to play without them but i wouldn't say that's the fault of lasthope as much as its a sign the community/game had become toxic

if you cheated and you left the game because you couldn't cheat anymore, good riddance imo
 
lasthope came out

arena wasnt compatible with lasthope so the server got shut down arena completely died
twl 10v10 ctf got shut down
5v5 teams dwindled to like 5 or 6 teams in totality from 10+
booze boot camp server that was usually full all the time died completely

we went from 2 full 32 player pubs to 1

this happened very very quickly and there were many threads about interpolate and it not being a cheat or being a cheat during this time

people didn't leave because they couldn't cheat they left because switching to lasthope sucked and nuked interpolate which a lot of people had got used to

im not talking about 1.30 im talking about the first iterations of lasthope i can't even remember what they were called because they were only around shortly like 1.20 or whatever and we had to keep changing and download the newest anti cheat every month or so like 3 or 4 times just to join a server

there were points when one server would be running lasthope 1.20a and another had 1.20b(??i forget the title but i remember there was an a and b version) or some ot her version and you couldn't join one server or the other with your version of lasthope

please explain to me how requiring the average person to have 3 different versions of tribes to play on 3 different servers wouldn't be annoying or make people quit the game
 
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people get selfish wanting anti cheats they dont realize when you require a download on a 10-15 year old game that commoners haven't updated in 10 years

you know what their first reaction is?

lets fire up some CS or TF2

the % of people playing CTF PU's is small

ive argued the shit out of this since day one but im looked at like the crazy "socialist" or something for even thinking this im just a "cheater" etc.

this is why stork is so dead wrong hes narrow minded and cant see the big picture outside of his PU squad feeding him info
 
k so people dont like lasthope

dont run servers or clients with it

no ones ever forced this stuff on the community

no one is stopping anyone from running a 1.11 server and allowing any clients

the fact that people choose to play on servers with those protections means that non-cheaters want to play with other non-cheaters

they don't care if cheaters go and play on some other server

but no one does that because cheaters dont want a level playing field, they want an advantage and the only way they can get that is by cheating against people who aren't
 
like perhaps people dont remember this like i do

but every lasthope up to 1.30 allowed you to use predictforwardtime still

and there was a full year or maybe mroe before lasthope upgraded to 1.30 so we went through 1.20 1.20a 1.20b 1.21 im just making them up but there were so many

and during that time there were so many versions and updates that you had to upgrade to to be able to pub or you couldn't join the server

servers would run different versions of lasthope because server admins didn't want to keep upgrading or lasthope wasn't compatible with their mod

people just got sick of the upgrading and tinkering with tribes and moved to other games or stopped playing

so maybe saying over night was wrong but i did see the drop in player count and im sure a lot of other people did too


kotz is right when you download the game after years of not playing you dont want to have to have 3 different copies just to be able to join different servers without getting kicked so you just move on
 
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Kismet said:
lasthope came out

arena wasnt compatible with lasthope so the server got shut down arena completely died
twl 10v10 ctf got shut down
5v5 teams dwindled to like 5 or 6 teams in totality from 10+
booze boot camp server that was usually full all the time died completely

we went from 2 full 32 player pubs to 1

this happened very very quickly and there were many threads about interpolate and it not being a cheat or being a cheat during this time

people didn't leave because they couldn't cheat they left because switching to lasthope sucked and nuked interpolate which a lot of people had got used to

im not talking about 1.30 im talking about the first iterations of lasthope i can't even remember what they were called because they were only around shortly like 1.20 or whatever and we had to keep changing and download the newest anti cheat every month or so like 3 or 4 times just to join a server

there were points when one server would be running lasthope 1.20a and another had 1.20b(??i forget the title but i remember there was an a and b version) or some ot her version and you couldn't join one server or the other with your version of lasthope

please explain to me how requiring the average person to have 3 different versions of tribes to play on 3 different servers wouldn't be annoying or make people quit the game
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this is what im talking about but stork can't remember past the last 4 years cause *cough* he didnt play 7-8 years ago during first last hope

no hard feelings stork but when i talk about this stuff this is what i mean

honestly dare i thank you for saying this more eloquently than i can

this has been my opinion from day 1 on the matter always will be
 
KittyCat said:
this is what im talking about but stork can't remember past the last 4 years cause *cough* he didnt play 4 years ago

no hard feelings stork but when i talk about this stuff this is what i mean

honestly dare i thank you for saying this more eloquently than i can

this has been my opinion from day 1 on the matter always will be
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ppl cant even remember the different versions of hudbot that had better radar function than the current one

cuz i can remember a time where all i did as chase d was shoot people coming in from behind me

i did that fukin professionally i never turned around and i wasnt cheating

but they got a demo of snow doing it and suddenly its like OMG PROOF HES CHEATING

heres ppl discussing the radar range on hudbot
http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280377&page=2&pp=20

we could have had superhudbot, or a small range hudbot like we have now, or a slightly larger range that let you see people coming from behind you a bit more, it was all arbitrarily decided by forums ppl and andrew

and if u werent playing back then or participating in the threads you had no idea this was going on

so i can see y theyd witch hunt snow for shooting a guy with his back turned but the fact is everyone could do that with a certain version of hudbot at one point and it wasnt a cheat
 
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