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our economy is at all time highs right now

look at the snp and djia

would you say that you can't find a single issue in our economy or how things work?

or dare I say don't work for everyone.....yet this is the kind of shitlibery I am arguing with right now

i mean san fran is an economic tech boom town.......not just poop town and junkyville

despite:

California Has the Highest Poverty Rate in America. Why?

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Is this good or bad? you can answer me that

(obviously it depends on where you are at.....which position)

I can argue that a dollar stolen today

is always worth more to me (today) than it is tomorrow

and lucky for us all Keyesian's feel the same way

FUCK THE FUTURE

or what future the rest of us say.......

bowl of blood said:
it's not really an opinions matter.
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Swedes Are Getting Much Poorer

From economists to small business owners, Swedes are worried that their central bank’s policies are undermining their currency.


The krona has plunged more than 10 percent against the euro since the middle of last year, making imports considerably more expensive in an economy in which small businesses tend to rely more on buying goods from abroad than exporting. The currency’s slide follows the central bank’s decision to delay any exit from negative interest rates as policy makers argue they need more signs inflation will stick to a 2 percent target.
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AND THAT IS A GOOD THING

the poorer you get the more equal you become with the rest of the world

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the glass being half full, half empty, or full retard is always an opinion man you know this
 
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When will shitlibs realize that oil and a homogeneous culture was why "socialism" (which it never was) worked there

Now they are turning back to capitalism... multiculturalism and its failure in europe the next edition of our history books
 
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Esteban_Villa said:
blood - wrong.

why is USA GDP growing immediately upon trump economics? because we were being hamstringed by certain agreements and all we had to do was say 'nah'. 1.5% growth may be good for barack but 4 - 5% is more trumps number. sweden's economy could still be rocketing with significant natural resources and a well educated populace but they choose to give it away. Those, barely inflation levels growth. It's also a house of cards as long term the things they used to build up a nest egg (intelligent, honest, hard working populace) is replaced by a (illiterate, corrupt, bennies grabbing) a different one will result in a yemen type situation guaranteed.
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no dude - idgaf "why". i'm asking WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS. we can't explain them until we have them. politics and economics influence each other, but they aren't the same thing.
 
KittyCat said:
When will shitlibs realize that oil and a homogeneous culture was why "socialism" (which it never was) worked there

Now they are turning back to capitalism... multicultrism and its failure in europe the next editionof oue history books
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right?

our socialist economy can still work with 100x the population (with no additional economic input)

that is half the iq

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and who wants the other half living there dead

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i saw it in a cartoon one time

I'm a liberal and this is how fact based reality works in my world

where I also don't have anything to offer and nothing to give (but my life that I don't want to live)
 
KittyCat said:
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Tele is a good man a better man than me for typing that out

However this pic is all you need


It is to late to save sweden now even after they redpilled 2 weeks on election day

Let this be a history lesson to us all about Soros and multiculturalism

Excuse me while i walk through the no go zone
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/falls out of chair

first intelligent post you've made in I don't know how long.

The Lessons From Swedens Catastrophe Muslim Immigration - Save My Sweden

It's too late to save Sweden from cultural enrichment, they're fucked.

See what happens when you just say NO to EU/UN immigration agenda

Polish PM Praises EU Decision to Abandon Forced Migrant Relocation Scheme - Sputnik International

'Go wherever you want, but not to Italy' Interior Minister Matteo Salvini tells NGO ship

“The Aquarius 2 [the boat’s official name]has recovered about 10 people in Libyan search and rescue waters, a few miles from the mainland, but refused to cooperate with the coastguard in Tripoli,” Matteo Salvini, Italy’s Interior Minister, tweeted Thursday.

“Now it’s floating in the Mediterranean. I say it again and again: go wherever you want, but not to Italy.”

The migrants, from Pakistan and Ivory Coast, were said to have been picked up by the Aquarius from a sinking boat when they were unsuccessful at alerting Libya’s coastguard.

Salvini closed the country’s ports to migrants in June. Since that time, the Aquarius has been forced to find new locations for the migrants it says they save, landing many in Spanish ports where the socialist government has an open door for migrants.
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bowl of blood said:
see that's the right kind of information, that's interesting. not enough to paint a full picture of a ruined economy, but still much more useful argumentatively speaking than pics of cop cars.

and to be clear, i definitely agree that is bad. but what about the rest?
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i could make a strong argument for cancer being good if i wanted to

it all depends on what my relative position was and what my motives are....

that is what I am trying to drive home here

other than that people can make their bed and then sleep in it for all i care
 
I am well are that this isn't Sweden, but I am posting it because this too will become a reality to most of the nations in the EU, especially if Trump can lower the corporate tax rate here even more, as these EU nations continue to import millions of unskilled, illiterate 3rd worlders. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that the US should have the corporate tax rates it has, and by lowering it, we can get all the EU businesses to set up shop over here, starving their already fragile and unsustainable Welfare State.

Dutch King Willem-Alexander declares the end of the welfare state

Youngest monarch in Europe says people must take responsibility for their own future and create their own social and financial safety nets

King Willem-Alexander delivered a message to the Dutch people from the government in a nationally televised address: the welfare state of the 20th century is gone.

In its place a "participation society" is emerging, in which people must take responsibility for their own future and create their own social and financial safety nets, with less help from the national government.
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"The shift to a 'participation society' is especially visible in social security and long-term care," the king said, reading out to lawmakers a speech written for him by Prime Minister Mark Rutte's government.

"The classic welfare state of the second half of the 20th century in these areas in particular brought forth arrangements that are unsustainable in their current form."
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Islam is completely incompatible with any and all civilized societies and the EU is importing them at alarming rates. Just look at the workforce participation rates in the Islamic world and you will find that Muslims simply suck at work.

At least here in the US, fresh over the border Mexicans like to work.
 
Captain Tele said:
i could make a strong argument for cancer being good if i wanted to

it all depends on what my relative position was and what my motives are....

that is what I am trying to drive home here
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right, and what i am trying to drive home is that you would need to at least start by establishing that cancer exists to then go on and explore the causes and effects

what we can't do, or what is a complete waste of time to do, is give a bunch of reasons that the swedish economy would be trashed without actually establishing that it *is* trashed. the phenomenon has to be observed before it can be explained.

so yeah even based on that currency graph i could give a bunch of counters like maybe the euro has risen compared to all other currencies or why are they using a 6-month time frame but the point is you have to even have the currency graph in the first place to have that conversation. to be clear again i'm not actually making these arguments, i'm not that invested in this topic

data matters, takes are useless
 
i dont have access to computer algorithms that will tell me what your gdp would be if you lowered tax by x, which is the inference that is being made by decreasing immigration (less burden cost). we both do understand feminists would blow the tax dollars on something else though, immigrants are just one of their pet projects that has the nice side effect of destroying traditional swedish society.

all i can say is somewhere on the laffer curve (r u familiar with it? feel free to look it up quick) they are not at an optimal point. you cry for the numbers when you can look up real gdp growth vs inflation and look at the 'well that doesnt look like a strong robust economy.'

Everyone in the political sphere discusses BA economics not BS economics as I'm going to be honest - my quantitative math is shit. as is pretty much everyones thats why they've removed Calc III from most state economics (BS types, pretty good schools in good areas still stress it hard like boston college level on up) and replaced it with more statistics/diversity classes. my shit quantitative math skills are still probably superior to yours those so trust me on this one ok? lets be honest you ask for the numbers but probably wouldnt understand what you're looking at and constantly muddle GNP vs GDP

also not going to retype the trump numbers which his economics havent exactly required legislation to pass but the dissolution of agreements to return an immediate gdp growth furthering via autarkic policies which runs perpendicular to sweden's free trade policies, showing short term proof sweden has been ruining their economy with their policies. again its an efficiency thing. are we ruining our economy by devoting tax dollars to terminally ill patients when we could just chuck them out the 5th story of the hospital? technically yes but for those of us on the nationalist side saying 'no' to more immigrants isn't on the same moral parity.
 
bowl of blood said:
right, and what i am trying to drive home is that you would need to at least start by establishing that cancer exists to then go on and explore the causes and effects

what we can't do, or what is a complete waste of time to do, is give a bunch of reasons that the swedish economy would be trashed without actually establishing that it *is* trashed. the phenomenon has to be observed before it can be explained.

so yeah even based on that currency graph i could give a bunch of counters like maybe the euro has risen compared to all other currencies or why are they using a 6-month time frame but the point is you have to even have the currency graph in the first place to have that conversation. and i'm definitely not invested enough in this topic to bother

data matters, takes are useless
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All true but there is a funny thing happening in Sweden where the government is suppressing data, especially when it shows that the importation of all these people are causing the problems.

We see the same thing happening in the UK too (acid attacks are on the rise, knife attacks on the rise, and rapes) but for some reason, they can't say why it's happening.
 
Esteban_Villa said:
i dont have access to computer algorithms that will tell me what your gdp would be if you lowered tax by x, which is the inference that is being made by decreasing immigration (less burden cost). we both do understand feminists would blow the tax dollars on something else though, immigrants are just one of their pet projects that has the nice side effect of destroying traditional swedish society.

all i can say is somewhere on the laffer curve (r u familiar with it? feel free to look it up quick) they are not at an optimal point. you cry for the numbers when you can look up real gdp growth vs inflation and look at the 'well that doesnt look like a strong robust economy.'

Everyone in the political sphere discusses BA economics not BS economics as I'm going to be honest - my quantitative math is shit. as is pretty much everyones thats why they've removed Calc III from most state economics (BS types, pretty good schools in good areas still stress it hard like boston college level on up) and replaced it with more statistics/diversity classes. my shit quantitative math skills are still probably superior to yours those so trust me on this one ok? lets be honest you ask for the numbers but probably wouldnt understand what you're looking at and constantly muddle GNP vs GDP

also not going to retype the trump numbers which his economics havent exactly required legislation to pass but the dissolution of agreements to return an immediate gdp growth furthering via autarkic policies which runs perpendicular to sweden's free trade policies, showing short term proof sweden has been ruining their economy with their policies. again its an efficiency thing. are we ruining our economy by devoting tax dollars to terminally ill patients when we could just chuck them out the 5th story of the hospital? technically yes but for those of us on the nationalist side saying 'no' to more immigrants isn't on the same moral parity.
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but what the fuck are the swedish numbers???
 
samUwell said:
All true but there is a funny thing happening in Sweden where the government is suppressing data, especially when it shows that the importation of all these people are causing the problems.

We see the same thing happening in the UK too (acid attacks are on the rise, knife attacks on the rise, and rapes) but for some reason, they can't say why it's happening.
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the first game they play is changing the way they collect the stats

then say you can't show me stats to prove your case

because they intentionally destroyed said information

South African farm attacks: The highest death toll since 2008

same game they are playing in SA......

where the government no longer collects info on farm murders and everyone just says it isn't happening

it is a great way for cucks to keep their head in the hole to the reality of the world around them

so I see why this keeps happening

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Captain Tele said:
nahhh this isn't cancer

this is good stuff

and we are living in good times

it was the best of times in this tale of two shitties

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AND THAT'S A GOOD THING

'Inside Edition' crew gets robbed while reporting on San Francisco Bay Area crime

I bet you can't prove to me that this isn't GOOD

for the guy doing the robbing.......
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actually i just read estbena's link about 'gender-equal' snowplows and the reason given by the government did mention that women walk/cycle more than men, but did not give that as a reason for the change in policy. instead, it cited the statistic that more pedestrians are injured in snowy/icy conditions and therefore the plows were being redirected to reduce the overall rate of injuries. i didn't double-check his facts because again i don't really need to have a strong opinion on sweden but that article is a perfect example of someone latching onto a take rather than looking for numbers. (not to say bullshit feminism doesn't happen in scandinavia).
 
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