This is for you Trump voters.

MadHatSam said:
That seems pretty naive to believe that this one guy this time is honest.
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naive?

:lol:

wtf hes the only one of his type in my personal lifetime...


naive? they dont give a shit whether he actually is honest or not.

His perception is that he says what he thinks regardless of the consequences.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-...y-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2311

Why vote for someone you KNOW is dishonest, verse someone that might be?

i guess because shes a good politician? :lol: fuck outta here
 
Poll: More than 9 in 10 Trump voters feel ‘under attack’

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...-over-9-in-10-trump-voters-feels-under-attack

Ninety-one percent of Trump backers think their “beliefs and values are under attack.”

In addition, 85 percent of the outspoken billionaire’s fans “agree” with the statement, “America has lost its identity.”

And 78 percent “strongly agree” that they’re “falling further and further behind economically.”'


The poll found 84 percent of Trump backers want “a leader who is willing to say or do anything to solve America’s problems.”

And 90 percent said “public officials don’t care what people like me think.”
 
Except he has polled worse against her than any other candidate. He is the only person in the field with higher unfavorable ratings.
 
MadHatSam said:
Except he has polled worse against her than any other candidate. He is the only person in the field with higher unfavorable ratings.
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so you are saying neither are going to win the presidency?

or are you just trying to make argument for the sake of it?


Do you honestly believe someone other than Hillary or Trump will win?


i think ur just trolling now
 
I think Trump has ensured Hillary will win baring her actually getting indicted for something. I don't think Trump can win because he can't help but be himself and he isn't going to get the type of national support he needs in the general. It is still early, and lots of things can happen and change between now and November but Trump becoming someone else seems to be pretty damn unlikely.
 
MadHatSam said:
I think Trump has ensured Hillary will win baring her actually getting indicted for something. I don't think Trump can win because he can't help but be himself and he isn't going to get the type of national support he needs in the general. It is still early, and lots of things can happen and change between now and November but Trump becoming someone else seems to be pretty damn unlikely.
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:rolleyes:
 
MadHatSam said:
I think Trump has ensured Hillary will win baring her actually getting indicted for something. I don't think Trump can win because he can't help but be himself and he isn't going to get the type of national support he needs in the general. It is still early, and lots of things can happen and change between now and November but Trump becoming someone else seems to be pretty damn unlikely.
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I honestly don't know anymore. I didn't think Trump would even win a single primary before, and yet here we are. I don't know if people will turn out to vote for him in the general. I don't know if Bernie supporters will really turn out to vote for Hillary. I don't know if Hillary can really maintain her position in the polls when she's spent her whole career not maintaining a position.

Only thing I do know is that taking a poll as gospel is stupid.
 
I'd expect him to lose Wisconsin. The head of the RNC is from Wisconsin, Rinsed Penis. Then you have the speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, from Wisconsin, and then you have a Republican Gov, Scott Walker. In addition, you've had 24/7 #NeverTrump across the entire state for months now.

I noticed Trump trashed Scott Walker pretty hard. Walker has low approval rating in the state, but high approval rating in the GOP. Wisconsin is an open primary, meaning independents and Democrats can vote for the Repub nominee. So he's probably hoping for a lot of crossover votes.
 
MadHatSam said:
I think Drumpf has ensured Hillary will win baring her actually getting indicted for something. I don't think Drumpf can win because he can't help but be himself and he isn't going to get the type of national support he needs in the general. It is still early, and lots of things can happen and change between now and November but Drumpf becoming someone else seems to be pretty damn unlikely.
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Don't spoil it for people! I don't care what people want to happen, I really don't see how people see Trump winning.
 
Fool said:
I honestly don't know anymore. I didn't think Trump would even win a single primary before, and yet here we are. I don't know if people will turn out to vote for him in the general. I don't know if Bernie supporters will really turn out to vote for Hillary. I don't know if Hillary can really maintain her position in the polls when she's spent her whole career not maintaining a position.

Only thing I do know is that taking a poll as gospel is stupid.
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I think the support for Bernie will mostly support Hillary, sure some of the younger kids might not show up but that wouldn't be surprising. As much as Bernie is riding populist leftist support he isn't trying to break the Democratic party apart. Their debates have been mostly civil any they at least share a fair number of positions.

That isn't true in the Republican field, Trump just showed up and he doesn't care about 30% of the established Republican platform. He doesn't care about the party itself considering he has mostly been running against it and the establishment. He believes in nationalism, protectionist economic policies and a somewhat isolationist foreign policy. Not all of these are new to the Republican party but they have been mothballed for the last 30+ years.

In a different world with a smaller focused Republican field I think Hillary would be looking really weak right now, instead she has had time to find the positions that she thinks make her look good for the general, and sure Bernie is going to stick around until the end but again baring a scandal that actually sticks I don't think he can defeat her.

It has been depressing that any of these people that have been running since last summer could be the next President, they all just look so fucking shitty.
 
RandalltheVandal said:
and i cant see how people of good conscious can vote for hillary

so i guess we are all stumped
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Sometimes it sounds like you were born yesterday, party identification may be down overall but has long been a pretty damn accurate predictor of actual voting behavior logic, reason or actual worth of the candidates be damned.
 
Which is why the 2 party system is completely retarded and broken. Neither party even stands for what it is supposed to anymore. Plus the political spectrum has gone so haywire that the middle isn't really even the middle anymore.

Your justification for voting one way is most likely "because the other side sucks" and that just blows.
 
We don't necessarily need more parties, although I wish we had more viable options at least for the legislative branch. We need to remove the money and obscene personal enrichment that comes from being elected. It has removed the incentive to be a leader from our elected officials instead all they need to do is follow the money.

Party line voting will always be a problem since the electorate is too large to have a truly informed electorate. Also the corruption in the media helps lower the amount of useful information that is mass marketed.
 
Last year every "expert" said that Trump wouldn't last past January. Then they said he'd never stay in the lead. Now if you are so confident that Trump will lose...think again.

Most prediction models have him beating both Hillary or Bernie.

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MasterGnr said:
Last year every "expert" said that Drumpf wouldn't last past January. Then they said he'd never stay in the lead. Now if you are so confident that Drumpf will lose...think again.

Most prediction models have him beating both Hillary or Bernie.

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Most "polls" are just small sample size bullshit. Often less than 1000 people and it doesn't take the electoral college into account at all.

Trump isn't even a lock to win the nomination even if he wins the nomination. It is bullshit but that's what it is.

I am not big on him, but he should win the damn nomination as he has the most votes. However that very well may not be the case.
 
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