[Mega] MAGA Super Trump Mega Thread
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I adjusted that. Sorry to be so bold
They showed a live shot of the WH and pointed out no Marine guard at front door. They indicated that meant Trump was not in the Office and was prob committing suicide at that very moment
OneManArmy
Veteran XV
Mueller Hearing Review as told by OMA:
So just finished watching the hearing in its entirety.
Democrats:
Dems clearly had a plan. It played out well for them. Their main focus was on 5 different obstruction of justice bullet points in section 2 of Mueller's report. They came out of the gate strong with Nadler's opening statement and it served great purpose for the Democratic talking points:
As they zig zagged 5 minutes, each member of the Democratic side of the committee went down their list on how Trump Obstructed Justice. Almost (in fact i believe zero) none of them spoke about how Trump did not 'collude' with Russia. Thus, in my opinion, missed the blaring fact that Trump did not break any laws and therefore its hard to obstruct justice when there is nothing to obstruct.
They did however, do a great job of painting Trump as a child, kicking and screaming about this investigation. Trump does not come out looking good by any means.
Its my best guess they will have a plan for impeachment hearings coming shortly. We will also see in sync MSM talking points in conjunction with House/Senate Democrats starting later this afternoon and will be pounded as main headlines for the next 3 days to 2 weeks.
Republicans:
Clearly not as organized as the Dems. Their main focus was on how the entire investigation began and did an okay job of outlining the fact that Trump never ended the investigation when he had the legal power to do so.
Counter opening statement:
The best highlight was of course Jim Jordan. This dude is a boss:
I also liked Mr. Johnsons summary:
I believe it will be the Republican strategy to pivot the conversation to FISA/Dossier abuse. They will do this by constructing their talking points around the Barr investigation into the origins of the Mueller probe. That report should be dropping any day now.
Who controls the narrative in the next two weeks will be pivotable to swaying public opinion.
Mueller:
Clearly did not want to be there. It seemed like he was in sync with the dems though. Almost as if they had a walk through prior. Can't prove that by any means, but man, he was firing off answers to them much much quicker than he was to the Republicans.
Also, seems old and decrepit. He refused to answer many many questions.
Here is an example:
Over the entire hearing, it is clear to me, he is/was biased. Thats while attempting to take a non biased observation of the hearing.
Overall:
As stated, i think the dems will go down impeachment on obstruction. It will be the death of them as they did not do a great job of convincing me Trump did anything wrong.
Republicans need to stay united and get the answers needed on FISA abuse. If they can do that, they will be able to fight against what i'm sure is 24/7 Trump basing in the MSM.
So just finished watching the hearing in its entirety.
Democrats:
Dems clearly had a plan. It played out well for them. Their main focus was on 5 different obstruction of justice bullet points in section 2 of Mueller's report. They came out of the gate strong with Nadler's opening statement and it served great purpose for the Democratic talking points:
As they zig zagged 5 minutes, each member of the Democratic side of the committee went down their list on how Trump Obstructed Justice. Almost (in fact i believe zero) none of them spoke about how Trump did not 'collude' with Russia. Thus, in my opinion, missed the blaring fact that Trump did not break any laws and therefore its hard to obstruct justice when there is nothing to obstruct.
They did however, do a great job of painting Trump as a child, kicking and screaming about this investigation. Trump does not come out looking good by any means.
Its my best guess they will have a plan for impeachment hearings coming shortly. We will also see in sync MSM talking points in conjunction with House/Senate Democrats starting later this afternoon and will be pounded as main headlines for the next 3 days to 2 weeks.
Republicans:
Clearly not as organized as the Dems. Their main focus was on how the entire investigation began and did an okay job of outlining the fact that Trump never ended the investigation when he had the legal power to do so.
Counter opening statement:
The best highlight was of course Jim Jordan. This dude is a boss:
I also liked Mr. Johnsons summary:
I believe it will be the Republican strategy to pivot the conversation to FISA/Dossier abuse. They will do this by constructing their talking points around the Barr investigation into the origins of the Mueller probe. That report should be dropping any day now.
Who controls the narrative in the next two weeks will be pivotable to swaying public opinion.
Mueller:
Clearly did not want to be there. It seemed like he was in sync with the dems though. Almost as if they had a walk through prior. Can't prove that by any means, but man, he was firing off answers to them much much quicker than he was to the Republicans.
Also, seems old and decrepit. He refused to answer many many questions.
Here is an example:
Over the entire hearing, it is clear to me, he is/was biased. Thats while attempting to take a non biased observation of the hearing.
Overall:
As stated, i think the dems will go down impeachment on obstruction. It will be the death of them as they did not do a great job of convincing me Trump did anything wrong.
Republicans need to stay united and get the answers needed on FISA abuse. If they can do that, they will be able to fight against what i'm sure is 24/7 Trump basing in the MSM.
JuggerNaught
Contributor
From what i've heard, its not that he did anything wrong its that he attempted to do something wrong, whether it happened or not, still constitutes obstruction.
Atleast thats how it sounds
Atleast thats how it sounds
Lord Elessar
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Bob Mueller should be given a medal. It takes balls of steel to investigate a sitting world leader. The report is what it is. If Congress won't act on it if they truly believe a crime was committed that is on them. Blaming Mueller for inaction is political fence sitting. The longer this drags out, the easier it will be for Trump to point at economic numbers and say "just think what would happen if the dems cared about jobs instead of a witch hunt." If I were in a swing district or state I would be raging at the far left right now.
He has the right to fire those people in question.
Counsel was not denied material.
The investigation was completed.
Sound like a staked deck against Trump and knowing they were biased and purely fishing, and the fact he is indeed innocent, he simple fought back to protect the office of the presidency and his power against a party that can not accept defeat
Counsel was not denied material.
The investigation was completed.
Sound like a staked deck against Trump and knowing they were biased and purely fishing, and the fact he is indeed innocent, he simple fought back to protect the office of the presidency and his power against a party that can not accept defeat
NoGodForMe
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I'm pissed that many people went to jail because they couldn't remember something. Mueller should go to jail because he did the same thing today.
I don't think Mueller even wrote his own report, because he doesn't remember any of it.
I don't think Mueller even wrote his own report, because he doesn't remember any of it.
Lord Elessar
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Cohen and Manifort got what they deserved. I get pissed about them not because of convictions but because it shows how shitty we as a nation are at investigating white collar crimes and violations committed by rich people. Those types of things are what dicks everyone over when a particular house of cards crashes down.
OneManArmy
Veteran XV
Lord Elessar
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Torches and pitchforks comrade!
