[QuakeWars] Enemy Territory

[20:30] <@DwarfVader> WHY?
[20:30] <@FishStix> oh :o
[20:30] <@FishStix> its fun?
[20:30] <@DwarfVader> But the rest of us are having fun playing Vanilla
[20:30] <@DwarfVader> and there are more servers
[20:30] <@FishStix> oh, i see
[20:31] <@DwarfVader> I know you're a huge proponent of ProMod
[20:31] <@FishStix> i just want you guys to try it :O
[20:31] <@DwarfVader> So what I want to know is
[20:31] <@DwarfVader> why
[20:31] <@DwarfVader> what makes it better
[20:31] <@FishStix> less spammy
[20:32] <@FishStix> takes more skill
[20:32] <@DwarfVader> but I want YOU to tell me what makes it fun
[20:32] <@FishStix> much better for competition
[20:32] <@DwarfVader> and see
[20:32] <@DwarfVader> there it is.
[20:32] <@FishStix> automatic restrictions on things that can be abused
[20:32] <@DwarfVader> Such as what.
[20:32] <@DwarfVader> I haven't had much of a problem with anyone abusing things.
[20:32] <@DwarfVader> Sounds to me like it's nerf's for competition players
[20:32] <@FishStix> 5 hogs 2 decicrators a cyclops and a tormentor
[20:33] <@FishStix> you really want to play against that in comp?
[20:33] <@DwarfVader> I don't play comp
[20:33] <@DwarfVader> and have no intention of doing so
[20:33] <@FishStix> or in a pub
[20:33] <@DwarfVader> Never have had a problem with it in a pub
[20:33] <@FishStix> well then you haven't seen the horrors
[20:33] <@DwarfVader> if I'm playing on a server full of morons
[20:33] <@DwarfVader> I leave
[20:33] <@DwarfVader> and find a new server
[20:34] <@FishStix> 10 AVT's up against and MCP
[20:34] <@DwarfVader> the last thing I want to do is have less servers
[20:34] <@DwarfVader> and more "elitist" people
[20:34] <@FishStix> no amount of strategy can deal with that  plus all vehicles and snipers
[20:34] <@FishStix> sir, then this mod isn't for you
[20:34] <@DwarfVader> Because of the "elitism"
[20:34] <@FishStix> pretty much
[20:34] <@DwarfVader> yeah see
[20:34] <@DwarfVader> I don't want to join a server, and use artillery to take something out
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> and have some asshole
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> A: bitch
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> B: kick me
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> C: some other type of stupid
[20:35] <@FishStix> OK that's fine
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> because he thinks that my use of arty was wrong.
[20:35] <@FishStix> you're a totally casual player
[20:35] <@FishStix> promod is not for you
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> ok
[20:35] <@DwarfVader> that is what I wanted to know.
[20:35] <@FishStix> only reason I am such a huge proponent is because I think its wayyy more fun
[20:36] <@FishStix> and most people stopped playing the game because it was too random / spammy
[20:36] <@FishStix> er
[20:36] <@FishStix> comp players *
[20:36] <@FishStix> and TW people
[20:36] <@FishStix> that used to play
[20:36] <@DwarfVader> Yeah the problem is, I'm only usually playing with one MAYBE two TW people.
[20:36] <@DwarfVader> and don't get me wrong
[20:37] <@DwarfVader> I played t1/t2 just like everyone else in this room.
[20:37] <@DwarfVader> I love a good team game
[20:37] <@FishStix> just thought I'd let people know what promod is, and try to convince them to see the more competitive aspects of TW
[20:37] <@DwarfVader> and yes pubs can be frustrating when everyone is doing their own fucking thing and not trying to get to the objective.
[20:37] <@FishStix> er
[20:37] <@FishStix> QW
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> I just don't want to get kicked/banned or even hassled in a server because I'm not being a soldier when I don't feel like being a soldier... (or any other class.)
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> not to mention the fact that at the moment, there is only one decent promod server.
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> Also...
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> another question
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> if I do install it
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> will I have any problems playing on vanilla server?
[20:38] <@DwarfVader> servers*
[20:39] <@FishStix> no