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"i'm going to lower taxes on people who don't pay dick in taxes"
I think that's the point.

Progressive tax system > *

You make tons of money off a society you need to give more back from that society you initially profited from...
 
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for fun let's say that obama IS muslim..... so what? are we really THAT intolerant that we can't even imagine a non-christian president? are we that backward and ignorant that we believe all muslims are like minded in their hatred for america?

its like that stupid ass lady at the mccain rally who said she was worried about obama because he's an 'arab'.... she and people like her need to be shot. it can't be good for humanity to have those genes in the pool.

in fact. mccain standing up to his supporters and basically giving them a good 'stfu' won him a lot of points in my book.

not enough to vote for him, though.
Violent liberals.
 
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I think that's the point.

Progressive tax system > *

You make tons of money off a society you need to give more back from that society you initially profited from...
more like "if you aren't a useless **** you need to prop up useless ****s"

(not that I am NOT against a progressive tax system)
 
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Obama isnt a terrorist, he is a socialist and not a democrat.

"SPREAD THE WEALTH TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T EARN IT" should be his motto.

tsetse is a ****ing moron along with all you other morons thinking this "95% tax decrease" will in anyway give you more money in your pocket.
 
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more like "if you aren't a useless **** you need to prop up useless ****s"

(not that I am against a progressive tax system)
No, more like, those useless ****s buy your gimmicky products and make you rich, the least you could do is give some back...
 
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"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book." ***8213;McCain, as quoted in the Boston Globe, Dec. 17, 2007
 
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tsetse is a ****ing moron
 
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Obama isnt a terrorist, he is a socialist and not a democrat.

"SPREAD THE WEALTH TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T EARN IT" should be his motto.

tsetse is a ****ing moron along with all you other morons thinking this "95% tax decrease" will in anyway give you more money in your pocket.
but it will!

See, we tax the **** out of walmarts profits, then force them to raise wages. People see an extra 20 bucks on their check, but they don't notice their base cost of living has gone up 20 bucks. It's the democrat shell game.
 
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K i just discovered the giant **** thread. I'm outie 5 thousand
 
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No, more like, those useless ****s buy your gimmicky products and make you rich, the least you could do is give some back...
oh... we've reduced high income earners to 'makers of gimmicky products' for the sake of this argument.

 
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Obama isnt a terrorist, he is a socialist and not a democrat.

"SPREAD THE WEALTH TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T EARN IT" should be his motto.

tsetse is a ****ing moron along with all you other morons thinking this "95% tax decrease" will in anyway give you more money in your pocket.
Flame away sir, like that ever did ****, but you're the one who's not understanding what folks are saying and calling obama a "socialist" (i.e. making yourself look like a complete retard to anybody even remotely sincere).

That "spread the wealth" quote was about making the economy stronger for WORKING AMERICANS, not about the government taking wealth and spreading it.



...and i find it mind-numbing that you're attacking obama for his plan to cut taxes.

i mean... just shoot yourself if you are that angry and unable to handle reality.
 
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Flame away sir, like that ever did ****, but you're the one who's not understanding what folks are saying and calling obama a "socialist" (i.e. making yourself look like a complete retard to anybody even remotely sincere). That "spread the wealth" quote was about making the economy stronger for WORKING AMERICANS, not about the government taking wealth and spreading it.

and i find it mind-numbing that you're attacking obama for his plan to cut taxes.

i mean... just shoot yourself if you are that angry and unable to handle reality.
you have to admit, obama's plans do seem a bit on the 'magical' side.

(not that I endorse mccain's)
 
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but it will!

See, we tax the **** out of walmarts profits, then force them to raise wages. People see an extra 20 bucks on their check, but they don't notice their base cost of living has gone up 20 bucks. It's the democrat shell game.
And since walmart has been responsibile for lowering the standard of life here, good.
 
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"i'm going to lower taxes on people who don't pay dick in taxes"
This just means that people who pay little to nothing in taxes will get bigger checks in the mail for "tax credits." Increased welfare under the mantra of "tax cuts." Yay.

It's pretty clever, really.
 
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And since walmart has been responsibile for lowering the standard of life here, good.
awesome, except walmart's profit didn't change... their cost of doing business went up, so their prices went up... the cost was passed on, as always, to the consumer.

free market provided no help, because all the other grocery store's cost of doing business went up to... you did nothing but fool people into thinking they have more money.

Hell you probably hurt them, since psychologically they got a raise, and blew at least a portion of it.
 
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This just means that people who pay little to nothing in taxes will get bigger checks in the mail for "tax credits." Increased welfare under the mantra of "tax cuts." Yay.

It's pretty clever, really.
When you say people who pay, "little to nothing..." are you referring to Exxon? Rich people? Corporate Welfare?
 
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And since walmart has been responsibile for lowering the standard of life here, good.
Um, benefiting politically from something that offers no net gain to poor people is a good thing? How does that hurt walmart? Please explain.
 
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awesome, except walmart's profit didn't change... their cost of doing business went up, so their prices went up... the cost was passed on, as always, to the consumer.

free market provided no help, because all the other grocery store's cost of doing business went up to... you did nothing but fool people into thinking they have more money.

Hell you probably hurt them, since psychologically they got a raise, and blew at least a portion of it.
If they closed it would be GOOD for the PEOPLE of the USA.
 
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When you say people who pay, "little to nothing..." are you referring to Exxon? Rich people? Corporate Welfare?
No, I'm talking about people who literally pay little to nothing.
 
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If they closed it would be GOOD for the PEOPLE of the USA.
 
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