How to convert Unbelievers

Sipher77 said:
Ok, here we go lol.

Anyways, my rationale is that time goes to infinity.
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Time itself is not infinite. If there was an infinite amount of time prior to this point in time we would have never reached this point.

Time is linked to space. Prior to the big bang there was no space, therefore no time.
 
Sipher77 said:
If you go with the random event route, now you have to explain what caused this random event. Lets assume Big Bang Theory is correct. What caused the inital inifinte volume core to eventually explode and create everything as we know it? What was before it? Why did it happen, and why didnt things just stay the same with the infinitely dense core? There has to be a trigger, you have to fall back to something starting it.

Using Occam's razor, you choose the easiest of the two choices. That is why I go with entity.
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What's easier to have, a rock rolling down a hill, or an invisible human moving a rock down a hill?
 
Sipher77 said:
I am simply do not study science. Lack of knowledge does not mean someone is stupid.
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You have a high mental strength and charisma (mental force), but below average processing ability. This makes you great for sales jobs, but poor for analytical projects. Religion suits you perfectly.
 
Gil said:
What's easier to have, a rock rolling down a hill, or an invisible human moving a rock down a hill?
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The rock was at one point in time sitting in a neutral state. What is easier to have a rock in an initial state somehow being rolled down, or someone pushing the rock down.
 
Sipher77 said:
I am simply do not study science. Lack of knowledge does not mean someone is stupid.
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So to fill in the blanks for the knowledge you don't have you decided to believe in god because you're too lazy to try to figure it out rationally? What, did you just say "fuck it, its too hard to understand, clearly an imaginary being caused this!"
 
Gil said:
You have a high mental strength and charisma (mental force), but below average processing ability. This makes you great for sales jobs, but poor for analytical projects. Religion suits you perfectly.
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Well thank you Gil, but I would hope I have a above average processing ability lol.
 
Sipher77 said:
2. The ten foot rule. Anyone within ten feet of you is fair game. If someone sneezes, say, "God Bless You" and smile, while making eye contact. At stores, if someone is in front of you, say, "Marcia! I missed you in Church on Sunday!" When she turns around, you of course say, "Oh I'm sorry I thought you were someone else! From behind I could have sworn you sat in front of me in Church!" Then you'll both laugh and she'll feel good all day, and maybe think about actually going to Church herself.

LOL, I'm sorry too funny.
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This is the kind of shit that makes me not want to associate with people of your kind.
 
Fear2 said:
So to fill in the blanks for the knowledge you don't have you decided to believe in god because you're too lazy to try to figure it out rationally? What, did you just say "fuck it, its too hard to understand, clearly an imaginary being caused this!"
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The Bible clearly explains many of the questions I have, therefore I believe. Science only barely explains why we exist. It does not explain emotions or anything involving why we are this way.

So i basically believed in something that explained the majority of my questions. Wouldnt you as well?
 
Gravity didn't cause me to fall, the devil grabbed me and was trying to pull me into hell! But god parried his attack by hitting the ground with my face!
 
Sipher77 said:
The rock was at one point in time sitting in a neutral state. What is easier to have a rock in an initial state somehow being rolled down, or someone pushing the rock down.
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What's easier to have, a natural force like an earthquake push it down, or a person?

Think of the "back-end" needs of each: The natural force is a potential or real attribute of the universe. The living being needs its existence to be generated out of another living being (or some other means), needs sustenance, a location and a number of other needs met, and needs to have all kinds of other support.

Having the natural force is way, way simpler to fully explain.
 
Sipher77 said:
The Bible clearly explains many of the questions I have, therefore I believe. Science only barely explains why we exist. It does not explain emotions or anything involving why we are this way.

So i basically believed in something that explained the majority of my questions. Wouldnt you as well?
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So you're not a scientist and haven't studied science, but you state that science barely explains why we exist and doesn't handle why we have emotions.

How do you know what science does and doesn't explain if you haven't studied it? This is why I say you have below-average processing ability. Either that or you're a troll. Or maybe both. (why else would you go where you're not wanted)
 
Gil said:
What's easier to have, a natural force like an earthquake push it down, or a person?

Think of the "back-end" needs of each: The natural force is a potential or real attribute of the universe. The living being needs its existence to be generated out of another living being (or some other means), needs sustenance, a location and a number of other needs met, and needs to have all kinds of other support.

Having the natural force is way, way simpler to fully explain.
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But both man and the natural force are a real attribute of the Universe because and earthquake and man exist. An earthquake also needs support and it is just as complicated. What caused the tectonic plate movements and why. Just as you have answers to the earthquake, we have answers to man's existence because we exist.
 
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