plastic bags must die.

Don't forget about the gigantic blob of plastic in the pacific ocean that all plastic bags gravitate too.

Has something to do with gyres.

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch has been known for over two decades. The center of the North Pacific Gyre is a relatively stationary region of the North Pacific Ocean, an area often referred to as the horse latitudes. The circular rotation around it draws waste material in and has led to the accumulation of flotsam and other debris. The plastic debris gathers in concentrations of one million pieces of plastic per square mile in some areas. While historically this debris has biodegraded, the gyre is now accumulating vast quantities of plastic and marine debris. Rather than biodegrading, plastic photodegrades, disintegrating in the ocean into smaller and smaller pieces. These pieces, still polymers, are eventually the size of individual molecules, which are still not easily digested.[1] Some plastics photodegrade into other pollutants.
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ScooBySnaCk said:
quoting Carlin "how do you know we are not here to produce plastic bags" the earth will survive regardless when we are long gone
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No disrespect to George Carlin but in the meantime, we can't spend time on a river and come away with remembering how beautiful it was. Instead, we floated through a garbage dump.
 
sl500 said:
No disrespect to George Carlin but in the meantime, we can't spend time on a river and come away with remembering how beautiful it was. Instead, we floated through a garbage dump.
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I've been to lots of rivers and parks. I never see trash


maybe you should get out of the least coast. Come out to the best coast, where the population density is way lower.
 
The grocery store I shop at (sobeys) sells cloth bags for 99 cents, and if the bag ever rips they will replace it with a new one. The bags hold about 6 regular grocery bags worth and they are easier on the hands when carrying them, and you can set them down without having them spill all over because they have a flat bottom.

I am only disappointed I didn't buy some earlier.


The Great Pacific Garbage Patch has been known for over two decades. The center of the North Pacific Gyre is a relatively stationary region of the North Pacific Ocean, an area often referred to as the horse latitudes. The circular rotation around it draws waste material in and has led to the accumulation of flotsam and other debris. The plastic debris gathers in concentrations of one million pieces of plastic per square mile in some areas. While historically this debris has biodegraded, the gyre is now accumulating vast quantities of plastic and marine debris. Rather than biodegrading, plastic photodegrades, disintegrating in the ocean into smaller and smaller pieces. These pieces, still polymers, are eventually the size of individual molecules, which are still not easily digested.[1] Some plastics photodegrade into other pollutants.
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This how bad it is...

Already, British researchers have discovered that in a “typical sample of the sandy material gathered” along shorelines, one-quarter of the weight may be plastic particles.
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Source http://www.popsci.com/environment/article/2008-04/why-trashing-oceans-more-dangerous-we-imagined
 
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Gil said:
I've been to lots of rivers and parks. I never see trash


maybe you should get out of the least coast. Come out to the best coast, where the population density is way lower.
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Where would be the best place to go for a long weekend that's close to Seattle, or some other major airport, where we could rent a car and drive to?
 
Bad_CRC said:
Does anyone actually use cloth bags for grocery shopping? I don't, cause it seems like a pain in the ass, but after seeing this, I really think I should start. :(
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Yes. I do. They are stronger, and I don't end up with more worthless plastic. And it's no pain in the ass at all. It's just a little Trader Joe's sack. Been doing this for years and years.
 
sl500 said:
Where would be the best place to go for a long weekend that's close to Seattle, or some other major airport, where we could rent a car and drive to?
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The place to start for such a trip is to pay the $10, then search the forums for the 5 threads done in the past month on the same topic.
 
The hardest part about using those cloth bags is in 2 ways:

1. remembering to put them back into your car
2. remembering to carry them back into the store.


Several times I've had to hide my cart and run back to the parking lot to get my bags. It's a little embarrassing, but it only took about 3 or 4 times for me to start remembering.
 
I have enough trouble remembering to bring my plastic bags back to recycle them at the store, but I think I'd learn eventually to use the cloth bags.

They are still 2.50-3 bucks each here, That's over my threshold, once they hit a buck a piece then I'll buy. You'd think the stores would want to sell them cheap, cause it will save them money on plastic or paper bags.
 
Gil said:
The hardest part about using those cloth bags is in 2 ways:

1. remembering to put them back into your car
2. remembering to carry them back into the store.

refu
Several times I've had to hide my cart and run back to the parking lot to get my bags. It's a little embarrassing, but it only took about 3 or 4 times for me to start remembering.
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Why not just decline bags and put your stuff straight in the cart after paying and then just take the stuff to your car? Then you can put it in the cloth bag there. Why would you hide your cart? That makes no sense.
 
I didn't read this thread, but I imagined some really angry guy stabbing a bunch of plastic bags with a butcher knife and it made me smile. Thanks.
 
fartiusstinkius said:
Why not just decline bags and put your stuff straight in the cart after paying and then just take the stuff to your car? Then you can put it in the cloth bag there. Why would you hide your cart? That makes no sense.
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I don't want to deal with the cart after I leave the store

I hide my cart because I don't want overzealous store employees to discover it and return my intended purchases to their shelves.
 
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