Whiny BitchX Contributor
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56341 - 12-31-2017, 14:09
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Originally Posted by jgrange
Awful comparison and completely irrelevant. Try again, ScoobyCuck. The nature of her emails were unclassified until their reclassification years after the fact.
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That isn't true, and even if it were true, deleting the emails after they were subpoenaed is a felony.
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Sour++ Contributor
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56342 - 12-31-2017, 14:11
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Originally Posted by jgrange
None of her emails were deemed to be classified in nature until years later. Explain how anyone would know how to predict a re-classification well into the future.
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if u were passed a piece of paper (or an email) with information that by your estimation should be handled as classified material would it be O.K. for you to disseminate it via insecure methods?
do you think that someone with a top secret clearance should be able to tell what's sensitive and should be classified - whether or not it has been previously categorized as such?
do you think you'd keep your clearance if you mishandled material that should have been classified?
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VeteranXV Contributor
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56343 - 12-31-2017, 14:11
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okay, are you suggesting that bleachbit couldn't shred/permanently remove data from a hard drive because it's not extravagantly expensive? is that seriously your argument? LOL
and btw, they had a small window to do all of this. it's not like they knew the emails were going to be subpoenaed. they had to act fast.
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VeteranXX
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56344 - 12-31-2017, 14:12
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frothing mad about them emails
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56345 - 12-31-2017, 14:22
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Originally Posted by Fool
That isn't true, and even if it were true, deleting the emails after they were subpoenaed is a felony.
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It's definitely true. Emails were not classified until they were reclassified years later. Nothing of what you said is relevant due to this fact.
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Originally Posted by lemontw
if u were passed a piece of paper (or an email) with information that by your estimation should be handled as classified material would it be O.K. for you to disseminate it via insecure methods?
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Classified information isn't handed over like somebody just handing you a sheet of paper. It's protected and escorted in a certain way. It's not carried out in the open. Decisions based on top secret information is done in more secure ways rather than via email. Your hypotheticals are nonsensical.
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do you think that someone with a top secret clearance should be able to tell what's sensitive and should be classified - whether or not it has been previously categorized as such?
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Once again - none of the emails were classified information until deemed so years after they were sent. Also, they were probably aggregated into a long threaded conversation which caused the reclassification. This is similar to gathering a ton of unclassified information together in a way that turns it into privileged information such as PII or maybe even information protected under HIPAA. Gather enough of it and you can figure out who it's about, etc.
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do you think you'd keep your clearance if you mishandled material that should have been classified?
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She doesn't have her clearance anymore. Moot point. The point is locking her up. You aren't even anywhere close to proving this should happen.
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Originally Posted by havax
okay, are you suggesting that bleachbit couldn't shred/permanently remove data from a hard drive because it's not extravagantly expensive? is that seriously your argument? LOL
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You may be the dumbest one in here. You think some masterminded criminal would use freeware they found on google to hide their tracks? That's the point, dumbass. It was an amateurish move by people who panicked rather than them conducting some massive cover up dealing government secrets that threatened national security. How are you going to prove this was a felonious case of obstruction of justice rather than a misdemeanor? If it was their first charges then they'd easy plea down to probation/fine or just getting fired instead. Where is the locking up part?
This is getting tedious, guys. GG.
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VeteranXV Contributor
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56346 - 12-31-2017, 14:26
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Veteran++
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56347 - 12-31-2017, 14:27
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This is not the first time you've had to hang your head in shame on here or IRL.
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VeteranXV
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56348 - 12-31-2017, 14:27
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I didn't know blue pills came in suppository form, GG
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VeteranXX Contributor
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56349 - 12-31-2017, 14:28
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Did jgrange just say it doesn't matter if they deleted information which was under subpoena? Lmao
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56350 - 12-31-2017, 14:28
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Originally Posted by Dangerdoggie
I didn't know blue pills came in suppository form, GG
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There you go thinking about shoving stuff up your ass again
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VeteranXV Contributor
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56351 - 12-31-2017, 14:29
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Originally Posted by amRam
Did jgrange just say it doesn't matter if they deleted information which was under subpoena? Lmao
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Pretty much.
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Whiny BitchX Contributor
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56352 - 12-31-2017, 14:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgrange
It's definitely true. Emails were not classified until they were reclassified years later. Nothing of what you said is relevant due to this fact.
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FBI Director Comey stated that several emails were classified at the time of sending. So is he lying or are you?
Deleting emails after they're subpoenaed isn't relevant? Are you a ****ing retard? Seriously?
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56353 - 12-31-2017, 14:29
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Originally Posted by amRam
Did jgrange just say it doesn't matter if they deleted information which was under subpoena? Lmao
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Yes, because the investigation concluded this wasn't an issue. Twice. GG.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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56354 - 12-31-2017, 14:30
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Originally Posted by jgrange
Yes, because the investigation concluded this wasn't an issue. Twice. GG.
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Let's see what's more likely hummmmmm
Hillary is a rotten snake who was actively under protection by all the other rotten DC snakes.....
Or she totally did nothing wrong. Because deleting data which is under subpoena is totally ok.
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Sour++ Contributor
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56355 - 12-31-2017, 14:30
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What everyone with a Top Secret security clearance knows or should know
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The emphasis throughout the classification system is not on strict legalities and coded markings, but on judgment. In essence, employees are required to know right from wrong. It is a duty, however subjective in appearance, one takes on in return for a security clearance.
***8220;Not knowing***8221; would be an unexpected defense from a person with years of government experience.
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VeteranXX Contributor
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56356 - 12-31-2017, 14:31
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Guys
Her friends in DC didn't pursue charges
Therefore she's innocent.
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VeteranXV Contributor
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56357 - 12-31-2017, 14:32
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guys, it was just a matter and she was just extremely careless, that's all
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VeteranXX Contributor
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56358 - 12-31-2017, 14:33
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Guys
She didn't know
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Veteran++
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56359 - 12-31-2017, 14:34
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Guys
Lock her up!
Guys... ??
It's getting cold in here..
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VeteranXX
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56360 - 12-31-2017, 14:35
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we're coming for u hillary!!
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