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41 - 06-26-2013, 14:58
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To the religious zealots of my state, this is not important, the bible is the history book, religion trumps science

It will take time but we are slowly turning into a blue state
The bible has no issue with abortion. Causing one is nothing more than a fine, the amount of which is dependent on the husband's status in their community.

Also it is only outside the womb that the bible refers to the "living". So it is not a living being, by biblical standards, until it is outside the mother, breathing on it's own.
 
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The bible has no issue with abortion. Causing one is nothing more than a fine, the amount of which is dependent on the husband's status in their community.

Also it is only outside the womb that the bible refers to the "living". So it is not a living being, by biblical standards, until it is outside the mother, breathing on it's own.

sure thing guy, you keep telling yourself that, meanwhile I get to hear the religitards of my community say the exact opposite

who is leading the anti abortion charge, the christian right
 
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You people are seriously flogging Texas for passing a law that essentially prevents people from aborting 20 week pregnancies?

And Texans are the uneducated, backwards and regressive ones?

20 weeks is 5 months. Months. Not 5 Hours, or 5 Days, or even 5 weeks. 5 Months development.



We're not talking about snuffing out some divided cells here any more, we're talking about something that has taken the form of a human being. We're half way to the finish line, there's no getting cold feet now about it. When we get to a point when it's got all the parts, arranged in the proper and familiar shape, we're past the point of the "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" debate.

Now we're talking about euthanizing a human being.

And there should be some rules laid out governing, where, when, why and whom should be involved in the process.


So yeah, **** Texas for laying out some very basic ground rules on a very sensitive issue. What a bunch of barbaric redneck monkey's.
 
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sure thing guy, you keep telling yourself that, meanwhile I get to hear the religitards of my community say the exact opposite

who is leading the anti abortion charge, the christian right
I know they are leading, didn't say they weren't. What I did point out was the bible, it isn't what they think it is on the issue.
 
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You people are seriously flogging Texas for passing a law that essentially prevents people from aborting 20 week pregnancies?

And Texans are the uneducated, backwards and regressive ones?

20 weeks is 5 months. Months. Not 5 Hours, or 5 Days, or even 5 weeks. 5 Months development.

[IMG]http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/articles/health_and_medical_refere nce/womens_health/Pregnancy_Your_Babys_Grow th_and_Development_Months _4_to_6_20_Weeks.jpg[./IMG]

We're not talking about snuffing out some divided cells here any more, we're talking about something that has taken the form of a human being. We're half way to the finish line, there's no getting cold feet now about it. When we get to a point when it's got all the parts, arranged in the proper and familiar shape, we're past the point of the "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" debate.

Now we're talking about euthanizing a human being.

And there should be some rules laid out governing, where, when, why and whom should be involved in the process.


So yeah, **** Texas for laying out some very basic ground rules on a very sensitive issue. What a bunch of barbaric redneck monkey's.
There's a reason why most abortion windows are in the length of that time (20 to 27 for most iirc). It's based on science btw.
 
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"It's based on science".

What does that even mean?

Electroshock therapy and the practice of bloodletting was based on science too...
 
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You people are seriously flogging Texas for passing a law that essentially prevents people from aborting 20 week pregnancies?

And Texans are the uneducated, backwards and regressive ones?

20 weeks is 5 months. Months. Not 5 Hours, or 5 Days, or even 5 weeks. 5 Months development.



We're not talking about snuffing out some divided cells here any more, we're talking about something that has taken the form of a human being. We're half way to the finish line, there's no getting cold feet now about it. When we get to a point when it's got all the parts, arranged in the proper and familiar shape, we're past the point of the "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" debate.

Now we're talking about euthanizing a human being.

And there should be some rules laid out governing, where, when, why and whom should be involved in the process.


So yeah, **** Texas for laying out some very basic ground rules on a very sensitive issue. What a bunch of barbaric redneck monkey's.
u a little *****.

a ban on this would have negative repercussions two fold to whatever imagined bull **** ur coming up with as to y its wrong

sorry but the world is overpopulated as it is **** head
 
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You people are seriously flogging Texas for passing a law that essentially prevents people from aborting 20 week pregnancies?

And Texans are the uneducated, backwards and regressive ones?

20 weeks is 5 months. Months. Not 5 Hours, or 5 Days, or even 5 weeks. 5 Months development.



We're not talking about snuffing out some divided cells here any more, we're talking about something that has taken the form of a human being. We're half way to the finish line, there's no getting cold feet now about it. When we get to a point when it's got all the parts, arranged in the proper and familiar shape, we're past the point of the "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" debate.

Now we're talking about euthanizing a human being.

And there should be some rules laid out governing, where, when, why and whom should be involved in the process.


So yeah, **** Texas for laying out some very basic ground rules on a very sensitive issue. What a bunch of barbaric redneck monkey's.
Too bad the argument is not about fetal growth and development.

The argument concerns access to legal abortions.
 
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Hellsfury can take 20 and divide it by 4.

Can he divide other numbers by 4?
 
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if a fetus is found to be ALL ****ED UP, then they can abort
gg?
 
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You people are seriously flogging Texas for passing a law that essentially prevents people from aborting 20 week pregnancies?

The bigger issue for many in the state isnt the 20 week limit its that included in the bill is wording that would shut down 90% of the clinics in the state that can perform abortions

 
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10 hour drive from elpaso, 6 hours from brownsville,5 from lubbock

thats a bad ****ing idea
 
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one in san antonio, i'm good. whew.

still, we need to put about 50 of them suckers in brownsville drive-thru open 24 hours a day. this IS a stupid bill.
 
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vote began at 12:02, isn't allowed to be voted on
bill didn't pass

sometimes republicans who want smaller government actually just want to pass all the laws they can to legislate morality

because they're ****ing insane
Wish I could argue with that.

It appears that both sides aren't just convinced in their own beliefs, but are hellbent on using the government to force you to believe their way as well.

Sad **** and is going to continue to make one very ****ed up country.
 
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It appears that both sides aren't just convinced in their own beliefs, but are hellbent on using the government to force you to believe their way as well.


Difference being, the pro choice crowd isn't forcing the anti abortion crowd to get an abortion
 
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You people are seriously flogging Texas for passing a law that essentially prevents people from aborting 20 week pregnancies?

And Texans are the uneducated, backwards and regressive ones?

20 weeks is 5 months. Months. Not 5 Hours, or 5 Days, or even 5 weeks. 5 Months development.



We're not talking about snuffing out some divided cells here any more, we're talking about something that has taken the form of a human being. We're half way to the finish line, there's no getting cold feet now about it. When we get to a point when it's got all the parts, arranged in the proper and familiar shape, we're past the point of the "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" debate.

Now we're talking about euthanizing a human being.

And there should be some rules laid out governing, where, when, why and whom should be involved in the process.


So yeah, **** Texas for laying out some very basic ground rules on a very sensitive issue. What a bunch of barbaric redneck monkey's.
I'm okay with it, but as a consolation prize the woman should have her tubes tied.
 
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Difference being, the pro choice crowd isn't forcing the anti abortion crowd to get an abortion
Oh I totally agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwejQBIyjow

They reserve force, through government, for everything else "they" believe in.
 
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The bigger issue for many in the state isnt the 20 week limit its that included in the bill is wording that would shut down 90% of the clinics in the state that can perform abortions

Exactly, although a D&C could be done readily as an outpatient procedure at the local hospital.
 
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for a million bux
 
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Oh I totally agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwejQBIyjow

They reserve force, through government, for everything else "they" believe in.

ahhh you're an R vs D guy, not interested waste of my time
 
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