Senior Israeli official: If nuclear talks fail, Bush will order Iran attack
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"Stupid"
Yea right.
Get a clue.
Yea right.
Get a clue.
Because this isn't a dictatorship, regardless of what you've read. No outgoing US president has any tangible power his last months in office, unless attacked, no one is escalating squat. Bush is done, and if anything does materialize, it'll be under the next regime's watch. Don't be so naive.
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Great job Obrital now it will never happen.
i knew taxi was retarded but come onthis whole thing... is because... iran won't accept dollars for their oil?
p.s. you realize this already happened like 6 months ago right
this whole thing... is because... iran won't accept dollars for their oil?
p.s. you realize this already happened like 6 months ago right
Don't you morons get it yet... it isn't about nukes, or WMDs, or religion, or terrorism, it's about controlling the fucking energy resources.
orbital 123
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He has no political support, well the senate does support attacking Iran, but he does still have official power to attack. Since he is leaving office soon attacking wouldn't hurt him politically at all. It would hurt McCain, but who cares about McCain when Israel is calling? I think you are the one being naive here.
whens the last time a president with less than 4 months left in office attacked anyone. ESPECIALLY one with the lowest approval rating ever.
orbital 123
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Well, when you boil it down to its essense, it is about controlling the entire world economically and politically. But that is more higher level stuff, for those currently in power and at the lower levels it is about energy resources. It's about maintaining control of those resources to keep the US military and economy strong.
maybe we burn some of these orbital threads.... they're full of bullshit
We don't need Iran. All those nice oil reserves in the Canadian oil sands will do quite nicely. I'm so happy we're raping their land to get our energy fix. I also hope someone in a big yellow bulldozer will knock down Orby's house in order to make a bypass.
orbital 123
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When was the last time a situation like this came up with less than a year left in a Presidents term? It is a unique situation, and politically whether or not you believe it will happen, there is growing evidence that it will indeed happen.
At the very least, all the military hardware is in place for an attack, all it would take is a phone call and it would start. It would be literal armaggedon if the US or Israel hit Iran, but Bush is a fundamentalist Christian, so he doesn't mind bringing on the end of the world.
It would start WW3 essentially, and Russia and China would both be involved, and nukes would also likely be involved. You would also have terrorist strikes on US soil by Iran, and missile strikes on US troops in Iraq and well as Israelie cities.
It's an insane move, but Israel doesn't see any other choice if Iran won't stop it's uranium enrichment program. I would worry more about Afghanistan personally. They have nukes and there are tons of terrorists and supporters there. Iran has said that it would never strike Israel first, and they haven't attacked another country without being attacked first in modern times.
you are beyond retarded.. do you understand that the "threats" you keep talking about already culminated in iran not accepting u.s. dollars for their oil 8 months ago?
let me know if you need me to explain that one again
how does iran accepting u.s. dollars for their oil give the united states control over energy resources? is it because they don't have to change bills?
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It isn't "higher level" at all.
This planet moves on oil. Period. Every single fucking facet of it is mined, created, distilled, manufactured, transported, fueled, and dependent on oil.
The United States is currently using 5 times as much energy per capita as any other country.
The United States currently spends more than the rest of the fucking world combined on its military.
The United States currently has hundreds of strategically-placed military bases around the world that oversees the extraction, transport, and sale of oil.
It's about oil. It's always about oil. It's always been about oil. And until it runs out or a new form of cheap energy is discovered, it will always be about oil.
Everything else - politics, religion, military threats, ideology - everything else is window dressing.
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You don't get it, Congress' approval rating is currently lower (19%) than GWB's(23%). If they do anything STOOPID like what your mentioning, they'd be out on their asses post haste as well. The checks and balances of the US ensure that this type of thing won't/hasn't happened. NOTHING substantial regarding US policy, especially something as major as invading the 2nd largest producer of oil, is going to happen any time soon. Hell, I'd wager you whatever you'd care on that.
orbital 123
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The oil sands do not have enough energy to supply the worlds energy. Not even close. It's something like maybe 1 million barrels a day, maybe a bit more or less.
Iran being attacked would mean 4 million barrels of oil off the market. You would see 300+ dollar a barrel oil the next day. It would just get worse from there.
As I said, it would be insane, but then sanity was never something that the "crazies" cared much about. Yeah the neocons were nicknamed the crazies back in the 80's by others in the administration. There's good reason too, they are crazy.
orbital 123
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No, there is a higher level. Whether you want to believe in it or not is your choice, but it does exist. It will come out eventually, once they have enough control to come out of the woodwork without fear.