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question: do we have politicians that are actually for open borders

i thought that was like saying donald trump is a white surpremacist

when i say "for" i mean it's verifiably part of their platform, as in something they advocate, not something that the cia globalist pizzagati are printing t-shirts about
 
Miami convention for Democrats could alienate Hispanic voters who loathe socialism
While Miami lobbies for the 2020 Democratic Convention, party officials are bracing for an awkward outcome: hosting a nominee such as socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in a city filled with immigrants who fled socialism in their home countries.

Democrats are debating between the Florida metropolis and the sleepier Milwaukee, Wis., with Houston, Texas, a distant third option.
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Recent polling shows avowed socialist Sanders a front-runner for the nomination, already beating out establishment favorites such as Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., and former Vice President Joe Biden in early primary states such as New Hampshire.

But some Democrats in southern Florida are nervous about having to explain to their constituents that their party may nominate a candidate critical of President Donald Trump’s rhetoric on Venezuela and sympathetic to the Castro regime in Cuba. Whether Sanders wins or not, a contingent of attendees sympathetic to his views is sure to be on hand in the convention hall.

“Socialism is a dirty word for a lot of Hispanics [in Miami],” Lidia Moore, the Havana-born president of the Miami-Dade Cuban American Democratic Club told the Washington Examiner. “Bernie [Sanders] praising Castro in the 1980s is a deal killer. Anybody who comes here with the word ‘socialism’ is going to run into problems.”
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"The immigrants fleeing dictatorships aren’t leaving because their leader called for a living wage or affordable healthcare, " told the Examiner.

"They’re fleeing because of the environment created by corrupt regimes that jail political opponents, use violence against peaceful protesters, and disavow a free press and independent judiciary. The Trump administration uses similar tactics to silence critics, and voters in Miami-Dade will recognize that and vote accordingly."

Ernesto Ackerman, president of Independent Venezuelan American Citizens, a Miami-based, non-partisan Venezuelan advocacy group, predicted unrest should his city host a self-identified socialist in 2020.

"I expect protests. I'm not a guy who usually protests, this is a free country. But protesting is something I expect," he told the Examiner. "The Democratic Party is turning into the Socialist Party. You can hear it in people like [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] and Bernie Sanders."

"As the president said, I don't want socialism in this country. [Venezuelan-Americans have] seen what socialism did, it turned one of the richest countries [in South America] bankrupt."
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“We, at the Miami GOP, believe in democracy and freedom of speech and we promote those values, So, even though our community is full of people who fled their home countries because of the same leftist ideology Sen. Sanders promotes, they came to this country looking for free speech, democracy and respect for diversity of ideas which they also promote.”
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“Socialism has so completely ravaged this great country that even the world’s largest reserves of oil are no longer enough to keep the lights on,” Trump said. “This will never happen to us.”

For years, Venezuelan-Americans have tended to favor Democrats. With a Democratic party lurching further left, Trump might have an opening.

“I’m concerned about the Trump administration politicizing this issue, using Venezuelans’ suffering to score political points here in Florida,” Miami Democratic Representative Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, said after the speech. “We shouldn’t be using this as a political weapon.”
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MSM is going to do all they can to make it seem like these people are not even here.
 
i get really annoyed when bernie calls himself a socialist

he should be considered an american socialist which is really quite different relative to true socialists

even canadian politics haven't reached true socialism. American democrats are right wing extremists compared to us
 
Mogs said:
i get really annoyed when bernie calls himself a socialist

he should be considered an american socialist which is really quite different relative to true socialists

even canadian politics haven't reached true socialism. American democrats are right wing extremists compared to us
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any type of socialist is shit, and if it's true what you say about democrats here being "right wing extremists (which they aren't, of course) then you have major fucking problems coming your way.

good luck.
 
Mogs said:
i get really annoyed when bernie calls himself a socialist

he should be considered an american socialist which is really quite different relative to true socialists
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the guy was a big player in the US Communist party so in a way, you are correct - Bernie isn't a socialist, he's a fricken communist.

but in order to be in US politics, you need to serve the Deep State (AIPAC) and promote policies that feed their corporations US tax dollars and, in return, through their think-tanks, they can implement Statist policies through their corporations to limit the citizenry knowing and discussing the Authoritarian policies being pushed on us.
 
Mogs said:
i get really annoyed when bernie calls himself a socialist

he should be considered an american socialist which is really quite different relative to true socialists

even canadian politics haven't reached true socialism. American democrats are right wing extremists compared to us
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i get really annoyed by socialists in general and their bullshit terminology that never works out inside their head, yet alone can be considered applicable to reality, any real world conditions.

SOCIALISM: Government steals your shit, shit being private property, money, resources and individual time/efforts

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM: The people vote for Government to steal your shit.

The only difference being they, as in the people, as in a majority of people, like the idea of getting a cut.

They want "their fair share" of others "fair share" and that justifies any and all theft and thievery

the only issue with that, besides the obvious intellectual shortcomings, is the Democratic aspect........It is very much failing the Western World atm. Is only going to get worse (check out definition of Balkanization) as immigration and diversity increases and no voice feels represented.

Compare that to say the 10-13% approval ratings for Merkel, Macron, the US SENATE, or even Justin Trudeau's popularity decline over corruption atm.

The problem is that we already are not being represented inside our own nations. Our politicians already prove to us our votes don't matter. That Brexit can't happen, Trump can't drain the swamp, that no matter what they say they are not listening



This is beyond proven......

So even in under an ideal scenario, with ideal people, with ideal limits and constraints (none of which we have or will ever have) your bullshit can not happen without disastrous unintended consequences which are so well studied and defined (after so many direct failures) that they have to be intentional at some point

Supporters of the Fourth International echo Trotsky's opposition to Stalinist totalitarianism, advocating political revolution, arguing that socialism cannot sustain itself without democracy.[147]
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Leon Trotsky - Wikipedia

Even Lenin and Trotsky recognized this as Stalin took power away from (((them)))

Trotsky cried about HIS TURN until he took an ice axe to the fucking head until he was dead.

Same will happen to the rest of you as you fight for more insanity to run the asylum.

But enjoy the ride to hell though.......Here in :flag: we love your foreign fucks terribad opinions. We just presume, like with absent, you actually want to see us dead and destroyed, bankrupt and dismantled, or as poor and utterly hopeless + taxed to death as you are inside your own failing countries.

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absent said:
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Beeeeeernieeeeeeeeeee!
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cool stuff Anubis, I mean absent

same difference now

tell us more about how Socialist Governance in Portugal saved your economy

despite no real exports, or economy, other than tourism

which is dependent on people having money in other countries to blow inside yours........like a red district prostitute. not just because it dishes out hash and heroin in the streets everywhere for your people to eat.

I've been there.....it hasn't crashed yet in your eyes because it is still rock fucking bottom. it can't get any lower or more sad.

Everyone under 50 is a beggar mooch, like Anubis, who has no employment prospects outside of the hospitality industry (sucking off foreign visitors) and nobody wants to go to your nation except to see the ancient ruins of your former glory that the mixed breed children of Moors + Spanish are physical squatting in.

Spoiler


Where toilet paper is a designer luxury and everyone pissing in the street is the closest thing they have seen to a successful infrastructure project in the past few hundred years.
 
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