he could've said that instead, but he didn't
Come on dibs, you are smarter than ^.
My very first post:
Everyone should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at all. No one has the right to force another person to labor for them, whether they are paid for that labor or not.
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The debate then changed - because the people were doxxed, they were entitled to $135k to which i responded:
I have read the final ruling and i cannot find anything stating the main reason why the bigots had to pay the fine was that the names of the people in the gay-mob where made public. I see a few progressive website stating it but i cannot find in in the
court ruling. I will note that i have not read the entire 120pages but i have read a lot.
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I have no doubt that having their name made public, even though it was already made public by themselves, caused extra
emotional trauma, I cannot find it being the sole reason as to why they were fined the amount they were.
The debate then moved to:
Well it's pretty fucking cut and dry here. Oregon law prohibits business owners from discriminating based on sexual orientation, among other things such as race and religion.
As far as I know, discrimination, regardless of the platform you hide it behind, is in fact illegal.
No discrimination for any reason whatsoever.
Excepet for the above ^.
To which I responded:
Wait so... you agree with this kind of discrimination? Recap: Christian bakers MUST labor for something that goes against their religious upbringing, which, when you boil it down is discriminating against their Christians beliefs, and now you also agree that another company can also discriminate against a subset of people based off what they believe is discrimination, even before a court ruled on it?
So now we see that discrimination is allowed, as long as it is for something one group believes in, even though apparently:
Oregon law prohibits business owners from discriminating based on sexual orientation, among other things such as race and religion.
As far as I know, discrimination, regardless of the platform you hide it behind, is in fact illegal.
My next response:
They have and, shockingly, were turned away. Where is the outrage you ask? No one knows.
This has nothing to do with discrimination against gays; it has nothing to do with discrimination at all, as we have seen from phaytal, who agrees with discriminating against things/people he believes are worthy of discriminating against, and has everything to do with attacking Christianity.
So now we know that some forms of discrimination are in fact, allowed, by some people/groups. The cake message on the cake that Crowder asked for was very simple: "Steve Loves [insert male name here] Forever". The message there was, for some reason, overlooked.
So, its ok for GoFundMe to deny the Christians from raising money to pay for the fines on their site because they apparently get to enjoy this right and the Islamic bakers can deny baking a 'gay' cake to Crowder. Apparently, discrimination is allowed and from what i can tell, it has nothing to do with the message.
Let us see what other kinds of discrimination are allowed. So I post the article about the Christians wanting a cake baked and are also denied. The response:
Headline:
"Christian Man Asks Thirteen Gay Bakeries To Bake Him Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake, And Is Denied Service By All Of Them"
Content:
"Each one denied us the right to have 'Gay Marriage Is Wrong' on a cake"
Now the debate has changed to focus on 'the message' being written on the cake as grounds for discrimination because, someone, the baker, finds it to be offensive. "Steve Loves Gay Dude Forever" is totally offensive to the Islamic bakers and its apparently their right to deny service, because writing those words were offensive; "Gay Marriage is Wrong" is offensive to a few other bakers (and you) so they too are allowed to deny service, but... "Support Gay Marriage" is NOT offensive (to you) and if you find it offensive, we are going to get the State to sue you for $135k plus, force you to close your business.
Clearly, discrimination is allowed.
