while being very green and responsible about my Self-immolation

what kind of tire necklace they put on me

got to make greta proud of us boomers

tbh i drive a diesel pu but whatever

Great info Tele.

also:

Many people think that long-term use may induce additional wear due to lack of oil lubrication. For the crankshaft bearing half shells and the big end bearings this can translate into frequent high-speed rotary movement before a hydrodynamic film is established. During this phase of boundary lubrication, metal-to-metal contact can occur between the crankshaft surface and the bearing's sliding surface. This was not an issue while the number of engine restarts totaled what was generally understood to be a normal magnitude. However, in a vehicle with a start-stop system this effect can necessitate new technological solutions to avoid premature bearing wear, depending on the driving cycle. Consequently, future engines for start-stop applications need to be designed for 250,000 to 300,000 starts. Traditional bearing shells with aluminum or copper lining show severe wear after only 100,000 cycles.

There's always a period after a start before the oil pump gets up to operating pressures. I've been in diesel trucks with a separate electrical priming pump to eliminate this. Toyota oil filter have had check valves to keep as much oil in the pump and shorten oil starvation during start for a long time. Aftermarket filters and as far as I know other manufacturers do not.

very interesting stuff......

nice to have some actual mechanics on here

not just the worthless ramblings of teetotalers like mitch

it will be interesting to see where each make and model has specific issues after 100k miles

So yeah, if you own a Toyota, use genuine Toyota filters. They cost about the same as a cheap filter from the parts store, and you won't be wearing your engine out as much each start. A 5 pack for my Camry was 25$

90's camry probably my favorite car i never owned

i mean i see one for sale down the street for like 3k

has 120k miles on it

I'm like it has only just begun.......isn't even half way there yet

I see them all the time with >300k miles.

almost untouched too i bet

i'd be shocked if they make anything today that can do that

My car has that too. This is how I always start the car:

-Plug phone in for AndroidAuto (music, navigation and calls)
-Start car
-Little hand brake button to OFF
-Auto stop DISABLED
-Sports mode ENABLED
-Doors LOCKED
-Drive
-Check out women in running/yoga pants
-Curse at tards
-Arrive at destination

Always.

Originally Posted by Plasmatic

I see them all the time with >300k miles.

ya, 4 me it's those and the fking 5.3L gm somehow running w/o a hitch at 357884 (but in the gm, unlike the toyota, the ignition lock is always ****ed up so u have to angle the key 2 make it turn, the interior door handles don't work, the window switches have been punched down thru the door panel, the farmer who owns it did some electrical work that has tesla rolling over in his grave and axeing edison to give him a double fist****ing, and u have to say "beetlejuice" 3 times fast while sticking ur thumb up ur bum if u want the odometer display 2 work (it will only work for like .0003 seconds anyway))

And the outside door handle and window don't work on the drivers side.

Originally Posted by cael

yeah that's why you lease

I drive too much to lease, otherwise I would.

Originally Posted by Nmag

My car has that too. This is how I always start the car:

-Plug phone in for AndroidAuto (music, navigation and calls)
-Start car
-Little hand brake button to OFF
-Auto stop DISABLED
-Sports mode ENABLED
-Doors LOCKED
-Drive
-Check out women in running/yoga pants
-Curse at tards
-Arrive at destination

Always.

I thought this was NGFM

Originally Posted by lemontw

tbh i drive a diesel pu but whatever

As all real men do

Here's a solution for the Ford F-150, sure they have them for other vehicles as well: https://www.autostopeliminator.com/p...top-eliminator

Originally Posted by Captain Tele

Dons starter?

this appears to be the official sales pitch on how they work and why they WILL NOT have issues



this is the primary wiki answer

Start-stop system - Wikipedia

and primary general criticism so far



everything has a trade off as always

they traded this for fuel efficiency improvement......whether to appease EPA or California mandates.

Excellent links, tele. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Groove

don't u worry we got a fix for that car that isn't broken

Originally Posted by Mr Jimmy Pop

I thought this was NGFM

Ngfm would have pictures of each step

Originally Posted by samUwell

I have a car that has that feature where the engine turns off when at a stop in an attempt to save on fuel.

Cool idea seeing as how a gallon of gas where i live is quite expensive but I cannot help but to think that starters are not designed to start this many times. You know... planned obsolescence.

The cost of savings on fuel vs. the cost of replacing a starter? I don't drive much anymore - I average about 75 miles a week so saving on gas isn't a big concern to me.

Any of you know if this is something to be concerned with or not?

i've been hearing this a lot at intersections lately i couldn't imagine driving one. someone needs to pass a law banning >4cyl for most drivers because i wouldn't drive one of these ****boxes if my life depended on it