I've never seen so many sour grapes than I have in this thread.
So much rage against supposed TW hate...
I'll just point out that up to release TW was rather positive in general about T:V; the horrible release and general dislike of the game soured many people to it. HOWEVER, there are few people whose opinions have ever 'counted' in TW who actually bother to complain about the game - instead you get pariahs like PanamaJack whining and whining. The majority of posters on TW don't even think about Tribes Talk and have probably long given up on T:V for one of two reasons, either they were never major Tribes players, decided after trying to deal with T2 that it wasn't fighting with T:V. There are probably quite a few that would play if a patch fixed some of their problems, but people don't need to post on this sub-forum to signal that they may or may not play T:V. In fact the only people that really post regularly on this forum are those that come here to be part of one of two cliques to make themselves feel better, either the 'hate T:V, always hated it because it took out the 10 billion turrets, I've been secretly hoping it would fail for months now' camp, or the 'T:V is the greatest game ever and you are an (f'n filter) that ruined the game for thinking differently'.
As for criticism of T:V, appearently none of those complaining were here to see the souring and attacks on T2 for the first month or two after release. Attacks have been relatively weak and not really supported by the majority of the community because simply put, during the era of T2 - GD's focus expanded beyond Tribes because otherwise it would have died rather quickly.
Just a quick point of note, there are 181 people that have been here since 1-18-2000, 433 since 3-31-2000, 962 since 7-1-2000, 1716 since 1-18-2001. There are 18732 total members of TW, out of that there were 311 people on when I checked - 242 members; from this there were 34 viewing Tribes talk. There have been 1882 members that have visited today as of the time I checked, 3973 have visited since January 1st, 5253 since December 1st, 7425 since 10-5 (wasn't that when a little game called T:V shipped?), 12709 since this day last year.
So yes, I would hazard a guess that this is probably the largest community that has at least a sizable connection to the Tribes franchise. This of course was also why they had all the IG/VU people post here pre-release, a marketing device to try to get the largest community comfortable with the direction the game was going. It was successful at first, but in general did not help as people quickly tired of the game anyways. It did succeed in avoiding getting the dev hung up by their toe nails as dave G/Qix still is to this day due to his almost prima-donna attitude and the fumbled release of T2.
